Undercover 806 Turbo...

Has anyone seen this bull? Vicklands in Co. own him. Is semen available?

dr. who must be so influential at moderating all those larger genetics that when he clicks, he really clicks.  would be interesting to see calves out of this bull.

http://www.maine-anjou.org/pagedisplay.php?id=345729

I thought you were looking for a farmall tractor under a shed!


Sorry, couldn't resist.

Knabe. Even though he's moderate, he is still a young calf in that video. That Doctor Who cow in his pedigree is out of one of the very best Tykia cows that Derouchey breed. Tykia was the most influential Fullbood of the modern era, JMO. He (Tykia) has an amazing pedigree which shows how Cunia plays off of some of those bigger, stouter Maine's. Turbo himself is hard to beat from a pedigree standpoint. I wound like him a little more up headed and maybe not so sluggish on the move. The I-80's which have some of the same pedigree components are similar and appear to almost walk in slow motion. Those boys might need a little more shot of Chi-Angus to pep them up. But both are super great bulls and will work magic on the right cows, IMO.

Tykia's always intrigued me.

In maine event, the sire of turquino, pompon,had a daughter, the only other source of turquino.

He was never tested (maine event) to my knowledge for pha.

Tykia's are somewhat outcrossy.

Derouchey told me a long time ago he used all the Tykia 77 he had (a purebred), the most prominent offspring being 322h.  She had a son, total package, that gave me big calves, but i probably fed too much during last couple months preg. Now, always leery of that.

The donald bull in tykia's is triple bred cunia. Anyone know anything about him?

The Grand and Reserve Grand bulls at the NAILE appear to be full brothers. Bred similar to Turbo. Both I-80's and going back to Doctor Who on the top and the bottom of their pedigree. Pictures look great with super profiles.

http://www.livestockexpo.org/images/Beef/Beef%20Open/Open%20Maine%20Anjou/1%20Grand%20Champion%20Maine%20Anjou%20Bull%20Open-DSC_0885.jpg

http://www.livestockexpo.org/images/Beef/Beef%20Open/Open%20Maine%20Anjou/2%20Reserve%20Maine%20Anjou%20Bull%20Open-DSC_0889.jpg

Telos said:

The Grand and Reserve Grand bulls at the NAILE appear to be full brothers. Bred similar to Turbo. Both I-80's and going back to Doctor Who on the top and the bottom of their pedigree. Pictures look great with super profiles.

http://www.livestockexpo.org/images/Beef/Beef%20Open/Open%20Maine%20Anjou/1%20Grand%20Champion%20Maine%20Anjou%20Bull%20Open-DSC_0885.jpg

http://www.livestockexpo.org/images/Beef/Beef%20Open/Open%20Maine%20Anjou/2%20Reserve%20Maine%20Anjou%20Bull%20Open-DSC_0889.jpg

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even though the pictures look great and the bulls are correct and sound, i wonder about performance. it was obvious to me from watching the royal and naile online with confirmation from a person at both shows that this bull who won both shows was smaller than younger bulls in the drives. i had 2 angus bulls in the connors bull test that ended this month. 25 of 30 angus bulls and 29 of 48 simmental bulls gained 4 lb a day. 1 of 11 maine bulls did. i have seen the day in my lifetime when every maine bull on test out gained both these breeds. AMAA MEMBERS WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

performance has been bred out in the drive for low bw.

angus decoupled this.

I think most cattle producers think of Maines as a show breed.  Angus, Simmental, Charolais and Hereford are the go to beef breeds with Angus and Hereford as the maternal base on crossbred programs and Simm or Charolais as the terminal performance breeds. Maine producers need to figure out what their real purpose is besides adding bone to Angus cows for club calf mommas.  That being said, our two I-80 steers were some of the biggest weaner calves out of an AngusxLimmy cow and a half Maine heifer.

Hopefully their genomics focus will change that.

This isn't the old day's any longer GoWyo ,the ANGUS and the HEREFORD are no more functional than the Simmi and Charolais ....The so called British breed's have changed and have just as many Terminal type cattle  as the two breeds mentioned ....The SIMMI and Charolais are trying to change ,not  sure  what the British breeds are trying to do .  In  these 4  breed's there is still cattle out there so that you can go what ever kind  of cattle you prefer to raise ....

I agree Freddy.  Every breed you mention has their lines that have different foci across the spectrum from low input, low performance puds to high input, higher performance terminal cattle.  The range of selection allows a breeder, or a producer, to select sires that help (or sometimes hinder) him or her to move their cattle herd to where they want it.  The breadth of choices in Angus, Hereford and Simmental makes those breeds easier to use in cross breeding programs.  With a smaller breed like the Maines I am sure there are cattle across the performance and maternal spectrum, but my limited experience with Maines from a beef production standpoint is that they have taken more effort at calving time, the cows let other calves nurse to the detriment of their own calves, and the performance of their calves has been hit or miss.  Maybe it is just that the Maine and Maine cross cows I have aren't all that good of cows as individuals, but that's my experience and perception and I think it applies to a lot of producers with much larger herds than my own.