What's he worth?

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bjkoller

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Some of you are probably tired of my questions and seeing this calf, but don't know enough of the clubby stuff to have a clue. 
Milkman x PB Charolais bull calf-  What are your thoughts? Sell him as bull or steer? Have some interest in him both ways, but  not a clue what he is worth.  Please PM me with your input on price but all steer or bull comments welcome....

He is a February 2nd out of a double bred Unlimited Ease cow.  Taped at 95lbs at birth, came pretty easy and unassisted.  He is horned and haven't had him TH tested yet.  Pics below of him over the last few months.  Will post pics of dam tonight.

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CAB

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  See if you can get in a sale on a % basis and you'll see what the market will bear, otherwise he's kind of worth what you can get for him. Nice looking calf.
 

kobo_ranch

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Depends on where you are.

Down here in Texas... Depends on.... who's selling.... who's buying.... and how deep them pockets are!

I'd say $2500 to $10000.  Seen some sell for more than that don't look that good.  Depends on how he walks I guess. 

I think he looks good, but would like to seem him walk...  GOOD LUCK
 

TMJ Show Cattle

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From one picture to another,he changes quite a lot.He looks to be a little straight off that front end.Could be he was caught[pictured] off balance.Remember,people on SP that might be interested in him will tell you a lower price to make money themselves. That's ok but pick a starting price,don't let someone else price your calves.If you price him a little high, you can always come down.Going by what I see from his pictures and if he is sound,he should command a good price. Will PM
 

carl s.

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I have no market for a February steer and have no reason to tell him a lower price to make money.
 

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Whats your  hurry to price him , he looks like has a lot of potential, you can register Charolais half bulls now , get a good video of him first.  You have a good calf so you have  the hard part done, a good calf someone is always looking for them,...............
 

bjkoller

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Not really in a hurry to price him, but will be working calves this weekend and trying to decide to cut him or not.  I will most likely register him as a half blood no matter if I cut him or not, but you still can't show them like we can with the heifers.  Am trying to decide if worth more as a bull or steer is what I guess I was looking for.  I will get a video tonight and post it.

Thanks to everyone for the input and love the feedback.
 

savaged

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In my opinion he is worth most as a steer, and as a 3-5 month old calf.  Put him in a high profile sale or private treaty (pay a well established and high reputation seller a commission and let them clip him), and he'll bring plenty.  If you want the max. dollars, let the big name breeder claim ownership and sell him. 

Use psychology to your advantage ;)

 

OH Breeder

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JMO

Value is very subjective. Market is everything. I have seen big name breeders sell just above cull for $3500 to inexperinced buyers. I have seen $25000 steers in the club calf sales go on and never to be heard from again but it was the seller that got the "$25000" supposedly. There are some markets that favor black cattle and they hold a premium other markets colors sell in equal value. use someone experienced to help you move the calf if you think he has potential. It may mean sharing in the profit or sale  but you get your name out there and may earn repeat business.
The pictures are hard to evaluate as with any pictures. The first one he looks heavy fronted. the last one he looks straight. He may not be any of those things but using the right photographer and the right marketer to get buyers is important. I know of a bull that sold for $1200 and his flushmate brother looked exactly like him sold for $12500. The big difference was the sellers. One was a big name and the other was lucky to buy an egg. You have a nice calf or appear to. Video is a great tool.
 

cotullaguy

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I agree with OH Breeder.  Marketing is everything.  I have seen animals like him bring $2000 and some bring $15,000.  I have seen $2500 steers beat $30k steers.  Marketing is the key to everything after you have quality like this.  I suggest you do an online auction or get in one with him to get the most and advertise it heavily as you can.  Magazines and steerplanet.com are a good start.  I would think he would bring between $5k to $7500 if this is done. 
 

redwingfarm

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Just my .02 worth, Ohio may not be the state to sell him in, he isn't black enough!! ;) I do like the idea of spending some money advertizing him, and then get him into a big name sale on a % basis, yes that will cost you some $ upfront but very might pay some big dividends at the end.  In my book it is A OK to let some body BIG make a buck on your calf if it raises the floor and you make a bunch more in the end.  Unfortunately if you try to go it alone and sell it yourself, you will find that there is a huge "little guy" discount applied to good calves, in other words if it does seem to come from a big it must not be worth buying

Good Luck
 

steer-guy

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seems to be a pretty nice calf and you shouldn't have a hard time selling him. I know that seeing a picture and then seeing them in real life are totally different. Sometime you swear it isn't the same calf. From what I can see, he seems to be pretty turned out on his front feet. At least in the first two pictures he is. I can't see his feet well enough in the 3rd.
 

lowann

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He's a nice calf, looks like allot of potential. It all depends on where you are, and who comes to look. We did very well last year with our calves, but you have to have the right people look at them. Love the smoky color!!
 

lowann

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Have you contacted Lautners about him, or sent them a picture?? I think it would be worth it. That is who we had come and look at ours last summer. Matt , Phil Lautner, and Mark Copus are good to deal with, and were very good to us.
 
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