What is in your tank you wish you had never bought ?

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polevaultcowboy21

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Had four calves from him and ever single on was born at right round 70 lbs( not complaining bout that) but had no growth to them.
 

VJ

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I still have some Outrageous in my tank. I bred a few heifers to him about 6-7 yrs ago. Both calves were good growthy calves but definitely not show calves. Turns out we tested the hfrs later and they were both PHAC. Talk about lucky!
 

Woody

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Manchild, 5 straws no pregs,  on the opposite side of that is Sunseeker, 5 straws, 4 bulls and 1 heifer. Most of my crap semen gets tossed, like double stuff after he was a double carrier.
 

JWW

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the simmental bull and denver champ - Infinite Justice
just didn't work for us, got one decent heifer that never bred up and became hamburger

JWW
 

hamburgman

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Tinman, loads of bone and no muscle to go with it, not the greatest growing either, and I try really hard to stay away from Alias genetics, but I royally screwed up and gave this one a pass.
 

blinggirl

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Hired man the "easy Calving proclaimed bull" bred to a first calf heifer never showed so no extra condition beside good breeding weight calf was 130 lbs when born it severily damaged the cow so much for her ! and the next year he was a use only on mature large framed cows !
 

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blinggirl said:
Hired man the "easy Calving proclaimed bull" bred to a first calf heifer never showed so no extra condition beside good breeding weight calf was 130 lbs when born it severily damaged the cow so much for her ! and the next year he was a use only on mature large framed cows !
I seen Hired Man in Denver as a calf and have been using him since and I can never remember him being promoted as an easy calver? I have his Denver flyer here somewhere but can't seem to find it but with his pedigree I would never even think of using him on a virgin heifer. Hannibal x Double Stuff. Not meant to be easy calving...........I had some big, stout calves out of cows but never had a problem.
 

ploughshare

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CAB: I was a naive idiot 20 years ago and used Power Blitz on a Brown Swiss cow and got an freakishly awesome black polled heifer calf.  Unfortunately, I bred the heifer to Full Throttle  (when he was a new bull) for her second calf and that was the end of that story.  Today I am still an idiot, but not as naive.
 

shortii

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cpubarn said:
I haven't used any of my Sin City (Shorthorn) semen.

One reason I like cattle visions is that you can just get 2-3 if you only want to use a bull on a couple of cows.  

I also had the problem of attempting to order a simmental bull, but got angus semen by a bull with the same name, not knowing it until it was thawed and headed to the cow.

Mark

Try www.shorthornshop.com or .org I cant remember. They have lots of good shorthorn bulls and some of the money goes to the junior association
 

shortii

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Till-Hill said:
blinggirl said:
Hired man the "easy Calving proclaimed bull" bred to a first calf heifer never showed so no extra condition beside good breeding weight calf was 130 lbs when born it severily damaged the cow so much for her ! and the next year he was a use only on mature large framed cows !
I seen Hired Man in Denver as a calf and have been using him since and I can never remember him being promoted as an easy calver? I have his Denver flyer here somewhere but can't seem to find it but with his pedigree I would never even think of using him on a virgin heifer. Hannibal x Double Stuff. Not meant to be easy calving...........I had some big, stout calves out of cows but never had a problem.

Judging by his picture I would never use him on a heifer
 

PDJ

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My dad, even at 79, has always been one to chase a fad.  I remember having some truly awful Alexander calves back in the mid 80's.
 

OH Breeder

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CAB said:
Power Blitz. Did anyone ever get a good calf out of him?

Was he an ABS sire late 80's early 90's?
I think I used him on a Simmi cross cow. We ended up pretty good for county fair project.
 

blinggirl

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shortii said:
Till-Hill said:
blinggirl said:
Hired man the "easy Calving proclaimed bull" bred to a first calf heifer never showed so no extra condition beside good breeding weight calf was 130 lbs when born it severily damaged the cow so much for her ! and the next year he was a use only on mature large framed cows !
I seen Hired Man in Denver as a calf and have been using him since and I can never remember him being promoted as an easy calver? I have his Denver flyer here somewhere but can't seem to find it but with his pedigree I would never even think of using him on a virgin heifer. Hannibal x Double Stuff. Not meant to be easy calving...........I had some big, stout calves out of cows but never had a problem.

Judging by his picture I would never use him on a heifer

Well we got a book on him when he first come out and said you could use him on heifers with no problems , we (me  and dad) would have never bred to him if that was the case ! granted he was a may calf an d he we took him to the salebarn ( bc he was bad ) he weighted 1400 lbs in july the next year !
 

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I did not want to respond to this question at first.  I guess I didn't want everyone to know how stupid I am, but I that's probably been public knowledge for a long time, so what the heck.  There's most likely been more stuff in my tank that I shouldn't have purchased than what I've been happy with.  In my younger days, I really enjoyed trying different genetic combinations, so that was probably part of the problem.  Bulls I wish I had never purchased:  Ayatollah (fortunately, I never used any of it and that tank went dry) War Horse (I know he worked for some, but not for me), Lights Out, Barrington Hardy and Bar-D Belle's Winner (back in the old dual purpose days), Ace of Spades (an old Black Chi bull.  Dad used him on some cows and were those calves nuts), and somebody will probably think I'm nuts but I'm going to include Heat Seeker as one I wished I'd have never used.  The two calves I had out of him were plumb loco.  I bought a purebred Maine cow bred to Red Hot, I think a Heat Seeker son, and that calf was crazy, too.  Truth be known, I think we'd all be better off if a bull had a track record before we tried him.
 

jachbom

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CAB said:
Power Blitz. Did anyone ever get a good calf out of him?

Wasnt he in the ABS catalog back in the late 80's early 90's?

If so better question yet.  Did anyone ever get a live calf out of him.  9 out of 10 dead mainly due to brain swelling since there heads were so huge.  Only live calf was slow and not a one under 115 lbs out of mature angus cows. 
 

itk

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I will take it one step further and admit we flushed cows to bulls we wish we never bought semen on trying to get some hot new matings at the time. I bet I have a dozen or so eggs sired by Reno. IMO Reno is not as bad strictly from a sire POV as some might want to make him. But, if you put together all the hype then throw in the TH status it made for a perfect storm. The bull almost had no chance from the start. There are a few other flushes that I'm not so proud of but those Reno's stand out.
 

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I'll add another bull to this list. We bought a cane of Money Shot. I thought I really did my homework on this one. We bred 4 mature cows to him. 1 didn't catch (which I thank my lucky stars), 1 calved 2 weeks early and I have never seen a calf that crippled. I seriously almost cried when I saw her. Then my beautiful blue roan cow was 3 days from her due date when I noticed something wasn't quite right. When I finally got a vet to come out, he tells me that her uterus was torn and the calf or calves were under her rumen. So I lost both the cow and calf. Then the last cow had hers a day early, chromed up but a little bucked over in the front. Needless to say, I have 6 straws in the tank that I'm ready to throw out on the ground.
 

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OH Breeder said:
CAB said:
Power Blitz. Did anyone ever get a good calf out of him?

Was he an ABS sire late 80's early 90's?
I think I used him on a Simmi cross cow. We ended up pretty good for county fair project.
Just looked at a 2001 sire catalog from ABS and POWER BLITZ is in there,how could a clubby bull born in '89 be relevant in 2001?
 

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Look at WMW he is a 96 if im not mistaken.  734, wmw, ext, some older bulls work better on todays genetics than they did from their own generation.  I doubt that applies to PB though.
 

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