what type of cows to use BIM on?

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parkerqb7

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I am going to be using Believe in Me this year and I was wondering what type of cow would he work on best? 
 

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A gentle one with plenty of guts to burn off and needs a better front end would be a good candidate
 

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BIM heifer out of a former american show heifer. The cow is big framed with a huge middle and decent sized feet. He added bone, hair and some flashy looks as well as cleaned up the front a bit.
 

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parkerqb7

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We have mostly angus and angus based females would they be good or who else would work on angus based females
 

mark tenenbaum

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Overall-the best BIMS Ive seen have been out of Shorthorns-Im not stuck on Shorthorns yatta yatta but I do view ALOT OF SALES. On alot of cases there are generally footnotes like"not for the beginner showperson" etc. O0
 

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Whatever you do, resist the urge to keep BIM heifers as cows.  I have a deep bodied Walks Alone x Angus cow with her second calf on the ground now and she is a great little cow, heavy milker and is as maternal as any of my Angus cows.  She weaned off at over 50% of her body weight as a heifer and bred back AI. 

I figured her 3/4 sister born the next year out of the same cow and BIM would be similar.  Not similar at all.  The little sister by BIM didn't take care of her calf til about the 4th day of being locked up in a calving jug and barely milks enough to raise her calf.  Another BIM heifer out of a very maternal, heavy milking Simmental x Maine cow doesn't lick her calf at all, doesn't really care if it is around and certainly never goes looking for it, and has virtually no milk.  Her calf gave up and has been stealing milk.  Locked the up together today to see if I can figure out whether she is going to work or if she should just go right to the feedlot and bottle feed the calf.  The BIM cattle seem to be bigger, raw boned, hard doing heifers compared to the Walks Alone cattle we have had. 

I have one more yearling BIM heifer that is out of a very angular maternal commercial Angus cow.  This one is actually much softer bodied, easier keeping and reminds me of the Walks Alone cattle rather than a BIM.  I will give her a chance, but I am pretty much done with BIM.  I can't imagine how you can ever get a steer fat if the heifers are any indication of how he breeds.
 

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Hey Wyoming-Ill certainly take that into account-a bad combo can thake the milk out pf any progeny in one generation no matter what the cow-And I know this is reverse physiology and all that-but showy Shorthorns are maternal cattle-(hardoing big bw) THESE DAYS, and arent really very thick-kinda HARD DOING IN GENERAL: and if he genetically is too-then the calves will look like gangbusters-redneck-wivestale geneticism:courtesy of VA -West Va- O0
 

Bradenh

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I'm with gargan walks alone works on angus cows

Also (nobody shoot me here) heatwave has a good track record on angus cattle

Other options Id consider before b.i.m would be bojo and my number one (im biased because he's the most under rated clubby bull) the creature

But don't use the creature-nobody else does and I like keeping him my secret
 
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