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The Big Show / Re: Redneck sired 48% Shorthorn heifer
« on: June 05, 2021, 06:50:59 PM »
That Exile must be pretty good and have some performance O0
She has some performance. A little on the shallow side. So far it seems that Redneck adds body and makes them the right size. Big birthweight though.

The Big Show / Re: Redneck sired 48% Shorthorn heifer
« on: June 03, 2021, 10:21:14 PM »
Didnt get the video up -too late maybe-cool looking and You are one of the few people who used exile other than me Have one daughter-Her dam is a very moderate Proud Jazz-She sure made a nice looking one and VERY THICK to be sound which she is  but not any bigger than her dam-It was my understanding Exile also ads grow-seen it in other calves by him along the way O0

Full sister and shown by my 5 year old.

The Big Show / Re: Can't get heifer bred!!
« on: July 14, 2020, 07:16:49 PM »
Typical reduced or infertility associated with show cattle nothing new here.  Suppose you could get her bred artificially somehow but are these really genetics you want to propagate!?
What in her Brangus pedigree that was also not posted makes you assume that she comes from show lines?
Our Business Done RightxPoint Taken stuck AI on the first time AI-ing her. Our Rumor MillxComfort Zone also stuck the first time too. Our Yellow JacketxPoint Taken last year stuck her first time. Our 75% Simmental last year didnt stick and had to be bred by the bull. She really didnt show outward signs of heat so it was hard to catch her. Might have been the reason.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 11, 2020, 04:39:16 PM »
75% Maine.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 11, 2020, 12:22:30 PM »
Mark, very nice cow that most people in the industry should want pens full of cows like her.

This is our Daddys MoneyxMinnaerts Elanoar cow. Hopefully she will be one of our show prospects for next show season. If she cant play in a breed show then I give up. Not a great picture but shes getting better and deeper every day.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 10, 2020, 09:25:07 AM »
Mark, I really like that cow! IMO, she should be a breeding female anywhere.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 09, 2020, 09:46:40 PM »
I agree about taking away some mass and making a sounder steer. We just think we can't breed for flatter heifers than this one that has too much shape and bone. Also not feminine enough.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 09, 2020, 01:45:06 PM »
Can anyone point me towards reputable websites that explain the correlation between shape/bone and it being hormonal?

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 08, 2020, 02:44:17 PM »
We should stop showing our Maine and Shorthorn heifers and just focus on steers even though we arent having trouble getting them to breed up and our friends cant get their angus and simangus heifers to settle.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 07, 2020, 10:13:32 AM »
I guess what Im trying to say is in my opinion the champion breeding heifer that Im describing her steer calves probably wont ever be competitive in the show ring and the champion market steers sisters probably wont be competitive in a breeding show. There isnt a correlation or connection between the two.

The Big Show / Re: Breeding heifers.
« on: June 07, 2020, 09:55:02 AM »
Im not saying we should pick heifers that look like steers. Im just wondering why the heifers have to be 2D.

The Big Show / Breeding heifers.
« on: June 07, 2020, 08:23:55 AM »
Im trying to write this without bashing on anyone. Im just hoping someone can educate me on the why. Im hoping for a good and honest discussion without the mud flinging. I want to talk about breeding heifer divisions at jackpot shows. The kind Im preferring to is the kind where all breeds and crossbreds compete in the same division. In my mind, usually the champion is flat and a tick frail.
 Most of the time the champion is an angus, simangus, or Simmental. When I look at these champion heifers, I wonder if theyll ever make a competitive show steer. Some might tell me that their place is to produce heifers or bulls. In the beef industry, do we want flat light boned cattle? If so, the champion steer should also be a little bit flat and frail. I think theyre a disconnect between the market steer division and the breeding heifer division. The market steer had a mother to hopefully calved on her own and milked.
Now Im not saying a super clubby market heifer should win a breeding division show but I believe a breeding heifer should have a little shape and bone. Im still waiting on watching a Shorthorn, Maine, Hereford, etc to win a breed show. I watched some good heifers that are just as sound but are still feminine but get dinged because they have a little shape and a little power.
Im looking at as a perspective of a parent and wondering if it will ever be worth dragging a heifer to a show. We just wouldnt make any money on trying to make show steers out of these champion breeding heifers.

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