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you can try Simms trucking from Otis Colo.     They haul hogs to TX and might be able to fit this in on the way back in a 18 wheeler if that could work for ya.

Philip Simms    970-597-0247

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The Big Show / Re: how many are open after stalks??
« on: February 21, 2015, 03:31:17 PM »
On several occasions, I have seen cows that stood to be rode and thought they were in standing heat---   and calved several months later.   Don't know why, but I don't take it as serious that they are open till they are preg checked. 
 
Seen one last summer, stand to be rode about 90 days after AI, and is now springing up and looking like she is going to calve to the AI.

You might very well have a open cow, but I would double check before turning into hamburger. 

Have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: Semen Sales
« on: March 15, 2014, 12:34:50 AM »
In my case, I have a guy who comes around 6 times a year and fills my nitrogen tank.  For what he charges, he might break even or even loose money keeping nitrogen in my tank.    He stays in business on his cut of the semen that he sells.    So I try to give him all the business I can to keep the nitrogen cost down--  the bull owners will never come and fill my tank, and be dependable as this guy has for 20 years.   He also has sources to get about any thing I want, he gets the semen and drops it off in my tank and I don't pay shipping.

I know of another guy who is a distributor for a semen company and fills nitrogen tanks.   He told me about a customer that bought semen from the bull owner and even paid 3 dollars a straw more than what he was selling the same bull for.   Told the customer to get that guy to fill your tank cause he wasn't filling his tank any more.

If you have a person that dependably fills your tank and you never find it empty and hot-  take care of them like they are taking care of you.

Have a good one

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The Big Show / fly spray bloating steer
« on: July 21, 2012, 11:25:14 AM »
My son has 1 of 3 steers that bloats after treating with fly spray.  I thought at first that it was coincidence--  but have no doubt that he bloats only after sprayed with fly spray.

First tried a permethrin and then switched to a prolate spray--  same results with both--  spray on Monday and will be bloating Tuesday and Wednesday.   Flys are bad this year--  anybody have any ideas how to control flys without fly spray.

Really don't want to keep switching fly sprays ( might find the one that kills him).

Any ideas appreciated--  thanks in advance and have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: Double muscled steak
« on: June 19, 2012, 11:59:17 AM »
Knabe--  which cells are you talking about and what would you be looking for under a microscope?  Also, do you know if this is like th in that it takes both parents to be carriers?

Dale--  agree with you, not easy to calve (lost 2 more 3/4 sibs to this one when hip locked calving, cows were down for a while), soundness is an issue, and would much rather be eating a choice or a prime.

Obviously we didnt purposely breed for this, and trying to avoid any more?

Have a good one

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The Big Show / Double muscled steak
« on: June 18, 2012, 03:35:14 PM »
There has been topics on here about double muscled cattle.  I thawed t-bones and took a picture of one.

Steer was a Maine x and weighed 1300 and hung for 21 days.   Extremely lean, surprisingly tender and juicy enough---   but really tasteless or no flavor.   Really helps to cook on a BBQ grill and use plenty of hickory or mesquite wood chips, but still better than chicken or pork.

This one steer pretty much filled a 28 cubic ft. chest freezer and still gave away the heart and liver because we don't eat it- and didn't have room either.

This t-bone is probably an end cut and by far not the biggest.  Hope this file comes through and if somebody can re-size or neaten this up-- feel free to do so.

Have a good one

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I have a freezer full of a Maine X double muscled steer that we raised.   Biggest, leanest, chunk of red meat I ever seen.   Figured it was going to be tuff and dry--  but suprisingly, fairly tender, juicy and tasteless.

I am cooking it almost all on the bbq grill and adding alot of mesquite or hickory chips to get alot of smoke flavor, so it has some kind of taste.  Shouldnt complain about eating a steak that more than covers a plate, but real disappointed in no flavor.   The locker was concerned that it might not of had enuff of a fat cover to let it hang for 21 days, but was hanging over Christmas and through new yrs untill like the 3rd of January when they opened back up.

probably will eat another one if we have one born since we sell the best and eat the rest--  but hope we dont have another

Have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: bull banding issue
« on: June 16, 2012, 12:07:53 AM »
We get one like yours every couple yrs, our vet likes us to wait till fall and see if it will drop.   Like Cab said, dont band or cut the one out that you can get---  just make it harder for the vet later on.  Our vet gets them out.   

Had one this year that just almost didnt even have a scrotum and couldnt even feel a testical.  Will wait till fall and see what the vet says about that one.

Have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: Straw jumped out of the thaw jug.....
« on: May 16, 2012, 11:20:10 PM »
I had this happen once--  dropped straw of semen into thaw water and it shot back out like a rocket and bounced off the ceiling , then bounced off of 1 or 2 walls before hitting the floor.   There was no cotton plugs left in it when I picked it up-  but probably was some semen, but with no cotton plugs, there was no way to eject it.

I figured that there was probably a crack in the straw that let nitrogen into the straw and when it was warmed up, the liquid nitrogen expanded into a gas -- blowing out the cotton pusher plugs and made a rocket.  was kind of cool until ya figure that I paid good money for it.

That semen came from ABS, called them and mailed the straw back to them and got a refund on that straw.  ABS didn't sound like it was the first time that they had ever heard of this.

Dr. Elsden told stories about freezing embryos in the old ampules and if not sealed perfectly--  they would get nitrogen inside and blow up when put into thaw water.


Have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: Blower motor shredding to pieces!??
« on: April 14, 2012, 11:11:28 PM »
You can get a new motor and turbine from Valley Vet, Jobes Blue Ribbon, Circutteer, Sullivans, ect.   Probably doesnt matter what brand blower you have, Most are all the same Motor and turbine.    Last I knew, Motor and turbine was $80 or so and Valley Vet didnt charge freight.   Jobes Blue Ribbon are equally great to work with.

Hope this helps and have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: cows dead
« on: April 14, 2012, 12:52:41 AM »
Dont know any thing about clover, but we graze alfalfa in the spring and put the bloat blocks in the water tank and let them dissolve.   Thinking of this is that every thing will get the active ingredient when getting a drink.

good luck and have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: AI Problem
« on: April 14, 2012, 12:44:31 AM »
Like Terry said--   good quality semen-   Have you had it checked?   Are all these cows being AI"d with the same semen?
 
 Don't forget that there is alot of really poor semen out there.  I got some once that could only get about 10% conception with it and had it checked and it was 70% abnormal cells.   Talked to the stud that collected it and they said that I should get some calves with it.   

Sad -- but frozen bull semen is buyer beware

Have a good one

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The Big Show / Re: Brisket
« on: February 01, 2012, 11:19:37 PM »
Here is a recipe that my wife uses from a Colorado Cattle Womens cook book that we really like, I will type this in just as it is in the book

Marinade:
1 cup water
1/2 cup liquid smoke
1 T. Worcestershire sauce
1 cup brown sugar
1 1/2 T. salt

Sauce:
1 1/2 cup catsup
1/2 cup liquid smoke
1/4 cup worcestershire sauce
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/4 cup A-1 steak sauce


Marinate brisket in roasting pan at least 8 hours.  Leave in liquid and roast at 325 degrees for 5 hours. slice on diagonal. Cover with sauce and place under broiler until warm and bubbly.


Hope this helps

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The Big Show / Re: Negative experiences with Zilmax
« on: February 01, 2012, 10:58:39 PM »
This is probably not what you are looking for, but I have seen optiflex used in a big feed yard.

The first time I ever heard of optiflex was close to ten yrs ago.   The feed lot that I was working at part time split about 5 pens ( may be 250 hd each) into two groups as they were reimplanting, the first through the chute went to the right and the gate was swung and the second to the left- 3rd tothe right  --ect.   Then they fed one half optiflex and not the other half.  I got to see the end results after harvest, the half fed optiflex was just a very small bit better on gain, conversion, backfat, and and rib eye --- BUT--- 15% to 30% less choice and primes than their mates not fed optiflex.  The manager told me that was the end of that and it was kind of a test through the company that sold optiflex.

Years later, this lot sold to new owners and one morning I was sent to bring a pen up to be shipped out ( which I normally did not do).   I could not believe how bad these cattle walked and seemed stiff and slow.   I asked one of the guys if there was some thing wrong with these or if this was normal for feed lot cattle in hard frozen pens or something.   He didnt seem to know or care and several weeks later, I over heard one of the feeders asking for the pen numbers that were going to be fed optiflex, I inquired if the pen I followed up was fed optiflex-- and they were.

Any how -  this is my experience with optiflex and some are comparing it with zilmax which I have no plans of using either one

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The Big Show / Re: Potential genetic defect in Shorthorn cattle
« on: January 10, 2012, 10:37:00 AM »
May be I should clarify some info---  he went to buy an envelope from the post  master and when she seen what he was going to ship, she wouldnt ship it until he went down to a grocery store and got dry ice.   Then apperently he put it in a zip lock bag--  which I am afraid will build pressure and blow the bag, when it warms up.

I think to make a long story-short---  show up at the post office with a sealed package and dont let the post office know what you are shipping.   Or go in and buy the envelope and go back out side and put the samples in and go back in and mail it.

Isnt dry ice a frozen gas that seriously expands when it melts?

any how- have a good one

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