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The Big Show / Re: Cane code help needed AN713
« on: December 09, 2012, 11:17:41 AM »
Tips cap, many thanks

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The Big Show / Re: Need your thoughts on cow cycling
« on: December 09, 2012, 10:31:47 AM »
Here is what I copied from a post about this a long ago.

So there are a couple of different CIDR protocols out there.  Some people swear by theirs more than others.  This is the protocol we use, and have had a lot of success using.  It is one of the more commonly adopted protocols.

Day 1, We give a shot of 2 cc's of GnRH (you will hear this referred to as GnRH or possibly Gonadotropin, the GnRH drug we use is Cystorelin).  Also on day 1 insert a CIDR into the vagina of the animal using a CIDR insertion gun.  Here is a good video on the process of inserting a CIDR.   

 

On Day 7 we pull the CIDR and give a 5 cc shot of Lutylase (this is the drug that is referred to as PGF2a or PGF2 alpha)  Lutylase is probably the most common PGF2a used.  After pulling the CIDR and giving the shot of Lutylase, you should have heat withing 48 - 60 hours.  In my experience heifers usually happen earlier than cows.  If you see standing heat, breed off of your normal rules behind standing heat.  If you do not see standing heat breed the animal at 72 hours post CIDR.  (This has changed since I originally posted it.  We have been going with 60 hours on cows and 56 hours on heifers). We usually give a 2nd shot of 2 ccs of Cystorelin at this time.  I have had a lot of success breeding off of timed AI like this where you never see standing heat at all. 

As far as how it works the reproductive piece behind it is this, and skip this paragraph if you don't care.  You give the first shot of GnRH on day 1 which clears the dominant follicle from the ovary.  This is the point where you essentially start from scratch with the animal.  You insert the CIDR which is progesterone.  In a normal estrus cycle Progesterone levels spikes rises and then right before estrus it falls off dramatically.  With the CIDR you spike the progesterone level and create a new 7 day corpus luteum.  You pull the CIDR which drops the progesterone level, and give the PGF2a which causes your 7 days corpus luteum to regress.  Estrus should occur at this point.  You breed the way of the standing heat.  As I said you don't have to give the 2nd shot of GnRH, however we do.  Without giving GnRH you could possibly have a persistent follicle on the ovary where the cow is continually coming into heat every 7-10 days.

The CIDR protocol above works fantastic for me.  I use it to be able to breed cows on the weekend (I work during the week).  It also allows for a tighter breeding window.

There is other protocol where you can bring animals into heat quicker using just Lutylase, but it is not as reliable as the CIDR + Lutylase method.

Hope that helps.


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The Big Show / Cane code help needed AN713
« on: December 09, 2012, 09:26:36 AM »
Mysteriously showed up in dad's tank.  We have no idea what is.

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Both are ABS bulls.  Still looking for Red Outcrosses.  Rushmore is pretty young so I am guessing not much there.


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The Big Show / Any thoughts on Red Simmental Bulls out there
« on: October 11, 2012, 11:53:07 AM »
Would prefer a Dream On Outcross.

Other than the Gunner/ Top Gun lines are there any good onese out there?  Also what do you think of either Gunner or Top Gun calves?

I of course like Mack but would prefer not to pay $200 on anything completely unproven at this point.

 

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: November 04, 2011, 09:45:44 AM »
Thank you everyone for your interest, I sold her and loaded her on a trailer yesterday morning.

Thanks again all,

Dan

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: October 25, 2011, 11:46:10 AM »
Those of you that asked for it, I am going to try to get video of her this weekend if everything goes right.

Thanks

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: October 19, 2011, 03:03:39 PM »
Bump

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: October 17, 2011, 09:40:33 AM »
I thought she was sold so I quit bumping her to the top however it sounds like it is not going to happen now.  With that in mind she is still for sale.

If possible I am willing to help with shipping.

Thanks

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: October 05, 2011, 02:24:05 PM »
Louisville is probably about half way.  I'm just saying   ;D

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: October 04, 2011, 12:08:01 PM »
what a nice hfr and a nice price. too bad im 800 miles away.


Thank you for the nice words.  I have it on good authority that she rides very well in a trailer.    ;D

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Cattle For Sale / Re: ***Updated With Pictures*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: October 03, 2011, 08:43:33 AM »
Updated with pictures taken yesterday

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Cattle For Sale / Re: Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: September 29, 2011, 06:52:51 AM »
Left you a message.

Thanks

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Cattle For Sale / ***Sold*** Bred Simmental Heifer
« on: September 27, 2011, 12:10:13 PM »
GLZ APPLE PIE X001 is a black February 5th, 2010 heifer.  She is a Trademark daughter out of an In Dew Time cow (that is still producing in our herd).  She is vet confirmed bred to Grandmaster.  She was bred on June 12th so she is expecting a March 21 calf.  She has had no exposure to any bulls and settled on the first AI breeding.  She is halter broke, and very gentle.  She has an extremely solid set of EPD's including a 9.4 CE, a -2.4 BW, and a 113 API.  If you would like to look at all of her EPD's and her pedigreee, her ASA # is 2528752.

I hope to have some pictures this weekend if the weather holds and the last hay gets put up.

We are located in SW Illinois 25 miles south of St. Louis.  I am asking $1750 for her.

Please send me a message if you have any other questions about her or if you would like me to call you.

Thanks

Dan




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The Big Show / Re: Breeding Question
« on: August 16, 2011, 09:48:51 AM »
Thank you all for the comments.  I don't really know much about CIDR's, how do they work? How do you put them in? How long should they stay in? etc.


So there are a couple of different CIDR protocols out there.  Some people swear by theirs more than others.  This is the protocol we use, and have had a lot of success using.  It is one of the more commonly adopted protocols.

Day 1, We give a shot of 2 cc's of GnRH (you will hear this referred to as GnRH or possibly Gonadotropin, the GnRH drug we use is Cystorelin).  Also on day 1 insert a CIDR into the vagina of the animal using a CIDR insertion gun.  Here is a good video on the process of inserting a CIDR.  
 

On Day 7 we pull the CIDR and give a 5 cc shot of Lutylase (this is the drug that is referred to as PGF2a or PGF2 alpha)  Lutylase is probably the most common PGF2a used.  After pulling the CIDR and giving the shot of Lutylase, you should have heat withing 48 - 60 hours.  In my experience heifers usually happen earlier than cows.  If you see standing heat, breed off of your normal rules behind standing heat.  If you do not see standing heat breed the animal at 72 hours post CIDR.  It isn't a must but we usually give a 2nd shot of 2 ccs of Cystorelin at this time.  I have had a lot of success breeding off of timed AI like this where you never see standing heat at all.  

As far as how it works the reproductive piece behind it is this, and skip this paragraph if you don't care.  You give the first shot of GnRH on day 1 which clears the dominant follicle from the ovary.  This is the point where you essentially start from scratch with the animal.  You insert the CIDR which is progesterone.  In a normal estrus cycle Progesterone levels spikes rises and then right before estrus it falls off dramatically.  With the CIDR you spike the progesterone level and create a new 7 day corpus luteum.  You pull the CIDR which drops the progesterone level, and give the PGF2a which causes your 7 days corpus luteum to regress.  Estrus should occur at this point.  You breed the way of the standing heat.  As I said you don't have to give the 2nd shot of GnRH, however we do.  Without giving GnRH you could possibly have a persistent follicle on the ovary where the cow is continually coming into heat every 7-10 days.

The CIDR protocol above works fantastic for me.  I use it to be able to breed cows on the weekend (I work during the week).  It also allows for a tighter breeding window.

You have to ask yourself a couple of questions to determine what you want from your herd to determine if June is too late for you to be calving.  My cut off for me is usually around June 15.  I am not a huge fan of June calves, but I AI everything so sometimes it winds up that way.  (I had two this year)  I will not breed for July or August dates simply because I don't want cows calving in 100 degree weather.  It is too hard on them and me for that matter.  If you breed today you are looking at a calf around May 25.  So if you would use the CIDR protocol listed above you would get into June pretty easily.  Around here we commonly have a May/June yearling class so May and June babies are marketable, but it varies by area.

There is other protocol where you can bring animals into heat quicker using just Lutylase, but it is not as reliable as the CIDR + Lutylase method.

Hope that helps.


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