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The Big Show / Re: Proposed Colorado livestock legislation
« on: March 22, 2021, 11:23:25 AM »
This is just more vegan / enviro harassment.  They got the wolf introduction by ballot initiative so they can harass agriculture, especially on the West Slope and in the mountain valleys.

Ag in Colorado is vastly outnumbered by the urban masses, but there are good animal protein customers in the urban areas and ag needs to reach out to find all the friends it can.  The ballot initiative as I understand it is somewhat a protracted process where the pushers of it have to first collect a certain number of signatures.  The producer organizations are taking it seriously, are on it and no one is ignoring it, but there are limited things they can do to stop the collection of signatures except work on engaging the public and getting out front of the PR campaign.

The Big Show / Re: New Herdsire
« on: February 24, 2021, 10:08:47 PM »
Calf weaning weights have started to plateau due to limitations in their environment despite all the hot rod growth genetics and schemes to make bulls with 1000 adjusted 205-day weights.  Weaning weight is highly important, but so is cost control and feedlot performance and feed efficiency and carcass value.

Overall, these results indicate
that trends for WW in commercial
cow-calf operations vary substantially
by region of the country. However,
there is considerable evidence that
progress in WW may be limited by
the production environment in
commercial cow-calf operations.
Perhaps one of the most
important takeaways from this
study is that commercial cow-calf
producers need to keep good records
in order to monitor progress in WW
and enterprise cost of production
over time.
Assuming a lack of significant
progress in calf WW, efforts to
enhance profitability should focus
on reducing cost of production
and/or capturing value of genetic
potential for post-weaning
performance and carcass value.


The Big Show / Re: Weaning
« on: December 25, 2020, 06:07:21 PM »
When we get droughted out we will pull calves early to make it easy on the cows and take pressure off the pasture.  I like to have them to 4 months minimum.  They can keep up with grass hay and a creep ration at that point and do pretty well.

The Big Show / Re: Who to breed this Simmental heifer to?
« on: December 21, 2020, 11:12:58 AM »
If you are in Wyoming and run at any elevation, pull up the entire pedigree on AAA and check the PAP EPDs on some of the Duff bulls and their relatives.  Maybe consider Conley South Point -- good foot and PAP EPDs.

The Big Show / Re: adding rib shape?
« on: December 16, 2020, 03:52:12 PM »
I could always drop the belly feeding free choice grass hay.  The problem is they are can still be empty looking in the "triangle" from the last rib to the hooks and down.  Making this part look full on show day was always a challenge for us.

The Big Show / Re: Ideas for manure disposal
« on: October 29, 2020, 02:25:22 PM »
In the big pen (100'x120') just pile it up in the center about 8-10' high and the calves work it down to about 4-5' high and lay on it.  It stays pretty dry compared to the rest of the pen.  The smaller pens, just push it out to a pile and keep letting it cook -- someday get someone in with a spreader and move it out.  We are only a 12-15" precipitation zone here though and nearest neighbor is 3 miles away.

The Big Show / Re: Looking for advice/tips....
« on: August 14, 2020, 09:22:10 AM »
Is this steer really sensitive about his head and feet?  A lot of cattle are deadheads and nothing bothers them, but I have had some that are extremely sensitive to the pressure of a halter and if you do not release the pressure as soon as they respond, they will throw a fit, run off, etc. because they are frustrated that they are not receiving the release of pressure from the halter lead.  Fear of the calf running off may make your daughter keep him on a "tighter leash" which is causing the extra pressure on his head and leading to the steer trying to get away.  A cable halter would "bite" with less pressure from the lead and exacerbate the steer's frustration.  Maybe try working him (in a smaller pen where he can't get away) on the halter using as little pressure to get him to respond and immediately releasing when he does the right thing and see if it makes a difference.  Let him have quite a few opportunities to learn how to respond the right way and on as light of a lead as possible.   

The Big Show / Re: lemon grass, cattle emissions
« on: July 16, 2020, 03:05:38 PM »
I finally watched the commercial this morning on YouTube.   It was a hokey, insulting, stupid and cultural misappropriative piece of crap.  If it does anything it will drive customers away from beef in general, not just from BK.  The sooner they file bankruptcy the better.

The Big Show / Re: optimum cow size
« on: June 11, 2020, 06:31:01 PM »
Here in SE Wyoming we are 100% rangeland grazing on native range with a couple of areas of domestic grass seedings.  I figure it takes 2.5-3.0 acres per cow per month (animal unit month or AUM) depending on the pasture.  We have about 12 pastures and try to stock them so that the pastures last 1-1 months with about 3" of stubble remaining then move to the next.  This seems to provide enough cover for the range and cows have to spend too much time hunting for feed if we graze it any shorter.  By managing pastures this way, I have cows from 1100 lbs. to 1500+ lbs. that will maintain their weight and the calves wean off pretty close to 50% of the cow weight.  Any cow that raises a dink is on the cull list.  I am sure some of the smaller end cows can eat as much as some of the larger end cows, but there really is no way to measure it.  I am betting that in 5 more years the average weight is probably going to converge in the 1300-1400 lb. cow average.  Since we calve in March, we do feed about a half ration of alfalfa until May when the grass comes on.  No cow gets special treatment -- they all run together.

Raising Angus seedstock, the bull buyers in this area can talk moderate cow size all they want, but when they buy bulls, they won't buy the small frame end of the bulls because they want the weaning weights.  The 1300-1400 lb. cows tend to balance the productivity and efficiency on average under range conditions while producing marketable bulls.  Marketable bulls is where the profit lies.  Their sisters become replacements, so we have to watch our mature size and resist keeping the heifers with big weaning weights unless we are sure they will have a reasonable mature size.  Everything else basically meets their expenses unless we add value by feeding out steers and heifers for freezer beef.  Feeding puds isn't very profitable, so the cow base has to have some performance no matter their size.

The Big Show / Re: Bull libido problems
« on: May 13, 2020, 12:56:40 PM »
Had one do that last year with yearling bull batting clean up.  Cows always seemed settled during July.  Beginning of August saw a different one in heat about every day.  Pulled another bull from the heifer pasture and put him in to salvage the operation.  Luckily most were stuck to AI, but will be calving 7 head for the next month that will be two months behind the rest of the herd.  Put another bull in and at least see if the competition makes him more active and make sure he is getting there.

The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: May 11, 2020, 03:36:58 PM »
Every producer's resource base is unique.  If you raise a lot of irrigated alfalfa hay and are short pasture, then the choice is to sell hay or feed it and a higher input-output cow might be in order.  If you are long on grass and short on hay or have to purchase all your winter feed at high cost, then the low input cow might be more profitable.  In a lot of the inter-mountain west, a 1300-1400 lb. cow in BCS 5 is pretty common (even though the guys who don't weigh them will tell you they only weigh 1100).  The forage is usually higher quality, but less bulky than washy grass, and with a lot more steps in between bites, so you will see cows that can tend to have less body depth because they don't need it to get the good from their forage source.  Set your performance and cull parameters and see what pretty actually looks like for the environment they're in.

The Big Show / Re: True " Ground Sow"
« on: May 01, 2020, 11:27:57 AM »
Cut them 3" thick.

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