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The Big Show / Re: I-80
« on: October 22, 2019, 03:28:53 PM »
All of those bulls are good, but I dont know if any of those are heifer safe besides woodrow. Do you have a picture of your american heifer? Kinda hard to give suggestions when we dont know what she looks like and how much character she has.

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The Big Show / Re: I-80
« on: October 22, 2019, 12:25:35 AM »
Woodrow isnt a half blood but if you are worried about character he might not be your best option. I wouldnt use I-80 either, if I have seen an I-80 American then it wasnt good enough for me to recall. And if that mating worked then more people would use it.
Id explore other options.

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One of your biggest concerns (and rightfully so) is longevity and structure. While that guide is undoubtable useful, in practice it is a lot harder to apply what you see and read in that guide to live animals. Since confirmation and longevity is one of your main points of focus, I would try to learn how to be able to break down a live animal's structure in person as good as you can. Go to breeding stock shows, find an experienced and seasoned cattlemen and go through their herd and let him(or her) show you how they evaluate confirmation and udder quality. This will also help with evaluation of pictures of animals. I would also like to say that structure is the hardest things to change in the next generation for any type of livestock and a good foundation is a must have. Without seeing them I hope that your two cows are a good start. And even when breeding two seemingly sound individuals together you may still end up with one that's unsound.
One last thing having cows that you can tie up and vaccination etc is really nice and makes it easy. But having to run cattle through a chute is safer for you and the animal and not to mention the calves(no matter how docile they are) are probably not going to like get poked by a needle lol.
Good luck!


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The Big Show / Maine Bulls
« on: July 29, 2019, 12:59:41 PM »
I have a Reimann's firewater X ali x hoodoo heifer that I want to AI this fall. I'm looking for a pb or high % maine to bred her to. She's good legged and footed, moderate, and good bodied/ribbed, and feminine headed without having an narrow I-80 skull but she's a bit plain as far as looks goes(deeper chested, doesn't tie in her neck that high) and needs a shot more width. Not wanting to breed her to I-80 but open to one of his sons. Any suggestions welcome.

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The Big Show / Re: Where have all the readers/posters gone?
« on: January 22, 2019, 03:51:23 PM »
Ok, Ill bite. I have been a member since 2010, but rarely post but was an avid reader until about 2 or so years when I slowly started to not read as much. In fact, this is the first time in about 6 months that I got on. I wanted to see what people thought of the display Bulls in Denver. When I first joined I was a freshman in high school and I enjoyed learning, seeing options etc, what people bred their cattle to, etc etc. Now I can see a lot of that on Facebook and to a greater extent. I slowly stopped reading because I could see this information elsewhere. However, there are other issues that have turned me off (personally). No offense to all the shorthorn breeders, but I have never been a fan of the breed and it seemed like thats all people talked about on here. It got old (to me). Another reason is how often good, informative, interesting topics got derailed(yes, I realize this is going to happen and isnt something we can totally prevent). But topics getting derailed and turned into petty, immature, personal conflicts between several people who couldnt just agree to disagree is probably the number one reason I stopped coming on this site.

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The Big Show / Re: Flushing Carrier Cows
« on: December 11, 2017, 11:19:50 AM »
Business done right

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The Big Show / Re: 2017 Denver Display Bulls
« on: January 31, 2017, 03:10:37 PM »
Yea, I have seen other better structured Hereford bulls this year that I would use before him. But that doesn't mean the rest of him wasn't good. He could have been shallow bodied, bowed hocked, and narrow, but he wasn't.
I wouldn't use him because of his shoulder but I also saw a pretty popular Hereford bull earlier a few months ago, who's daughters been getting a lot of attention and selling for a lot, who I thought was even worse structured while still not having same width and body or look that he did.

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The Big Show / Re: 2017 Denver Display Bulls
« on: January 31, 2017, 11:43:05 AM »
When I saw him, I definitely thought he was straight fronted and his knee needs to be laid back in him more. But still was a nice bull tho, other than that.

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The Big Show / Re: marbling ability
« on: August 12, 2016, 10:17:51 PM »
This is a little off topic because it doesn't apply to cattle, but still applies to marbling ability. But why are durocs and Berkshire are the only swine breeds to marble?

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The Big Show / Re: Is she worth the work? Opinions
« on: July 28, 2016, 02:31:19 PM »
I'm a bit confused! First you ask if this heifer is worth putting in the work? Now you say she should have won the whole show. So you are obviously already an expert and don't need our advice.
They asked if she was good enough or worth the work to compete in a big class at their state fair, which sounded like they were on the line about taking her cause they weren't sure how she was going to stand in the quality of those harder classes. They didn't mention or ask if she was good enough to compete in their county show. I think they knew she was good enough to well locally. There are many people who know that their animal is good enough to compete at the county level and can think they should have had purple banner there yet still not know if the heifer is good enough to haul to their state fair.

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The Big Show / Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« on: January 17, 2016, 10:39:00 PM »
No I didn't

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The Big Show / Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« on: January 17, 2016, 01:46:26 PM »
Here are my thoughts from when I looked at the bulls.
Rodger's Bull Getcha Some was my favorite followed up his other bull Mr. Misunderstood.
Both were extremely well made and put together really well. As well being two of the best and boldest bodied there and still being really attractive. They were not overwhelming in turns of with but they sure have enough. Mr. Misunderstood doesn't have some rundown over used type of pedigree either. Some might not think they are stout/ wide enough. But you can change width in one generation, not build. Thought we need more bulls built like them.
I wasn't impressed with Matt Launter bulls.
Saw American Pharoah in the wash rack and it wasn't pretty. On display, he was rounder hipped and just didn't bring much of anything the table.
A lot of his black bulls were really stout, really wide. but horrible footed, really bad ankles. Small feet, big bones is not a good combination. I actually took pictures of their feet cause I was the appalled.
Black Power Play is Launter's I believe son. Built more like Rodgers stuff then his other black bulls.
El Toro: I'm Texas so I'm familiar with slicks. I saw him Haired. Huge, huge back, and it was the same story from behind. Didn't like his shoulder, and I thought that his forerib was horrible and rib shape wasn't right for slicks. I wasn't a fan. But with that being said I could see him getting a lot of fans and usage down here.
El chapo was long, big legged.
Rockstar: I was pleasantly surprised. He looked really young still (I believe his banner said he was a march) which I didn't mind. Good looking, stout hipped, I thought he was still made pretty good.
See No evil. Good made, good looking, sound. Got behind him thought he disappeared. I appreciate what Raymond is trying to do tho, sound cattle with different pedigrees. Just really disappointed from a wide and muscle perspective.  His bull Strip Tease was interesting, and intriguing. Deep deep healed and extra deep bodied. Still pretty stout. He just looked really squatty. Kinda concerned me.
Money In The Bank didn't look like anything like his picture, I was disappointed.
Loaded For Bear: Extremely wide, really really big pinned.
BTO: I liked. thought he could make some slicks. bigger shouldered.
Several of my judging team member liked U Need me. I didn't really study him though. He could be worth some more discussion.
I studied most bulls. Tried to cover most of the bulls people would ask about in this post.
I have pictures that I can post later.

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Does this new rule apply to all market animals?

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The Big Show / Re: What to breed Maintainer heifer to?
« on: December 04, 2013, 08:10:36 PM »
You need to add the pedigree of your heifer. You will get more replies that way  (thumbsup)

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The Big Show / Re: In deperate need of help
« on: November 10, 2013, 12:45:23 PM »
I agree 100%. You don't know the lady or circumstances. Maybe instead of a self righteous hero trying to help an animal neglecter maybe that this old lady's husband probably did 95% of the work with the cattle. And maybe the wife was to softhearted to sell the herd while he is alive, and too softhearted to just let the calf die. Maybe She didn't want to cause him any worry when it came to the calf. She asked for help and she receive it. And she has even came over to the helpers house to tube it.. Doesn't sound like neglect to me.

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