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The Big Show / Re: Sararennan please stop
« on: July 06, 2022, 06:33:13 PM »
Who owns/moderates this site? A while ago I thought I saw a post wanting someone to take it over.

I inquired back when that post was made.

Never got a response.

KJHT POWER TAKE OFF is making some good ones.

This is the bull I was going to mention.

He impressed a lot of people in person, but I haven't ran into any calves though.

The Big Show / Re: May/June Shorthorn World page 12
« on: May 16, 2022, 11:08:17 AM »
I read it when it first came out, but was left with way more questions than answers and should probably read it again.

Angus is not a WHR organization. How does that affect this epd comparison? I believe Marc has Angus and Hereford as being in the top 4?? breeds for mature cow size. If we accept that, where should we as a breed actually want to be when it comes to comparing our epds considering how much frame has an affect on them? Black cows are being covered with colored bulls all over the country right now. I'm not ancient, but I can't remember a time when it was as popular as it is now. If you explore the reasons for this trend, I think you'll find some of the issues those cow men are trying to fix are a direct result of what it took to create the epds being compared here. Angus and Herefords obviously have larger populations, but those populations also have a commercial to show ratio that is very different from Shorthorns. Last I knew the average shorthorn herd was 6. A large percentage of those 6s are Jr herds. The shorthorn breed is considered one of the best breed environments for youth to develop within and it's really not even close, so I don't see this changing any time soon. The ASA has described how much those small herds mean to the financial side many times, so wishing them gone could have consequences unless commercial breeders expand their side of the ratio fairly significantly. If we look at all this data and then consider those ratios, I really don't know how to even compare these numbers. Or if we should.

On the other hand, there is a bull or two on this list I really wish wasn't there. If those calves hit a commercial feedlot they're going to get embarrassed. You're not getting near a 1,000lb carcass out of them without extra inputs, time, and a lot of luck. It's just not happening. Buyers will remember the roan calf in the pen and have no clue they're out of bull X, who just doesn't have the gas to compete.

I didn't buy anything, but it was nice to see that bunch have a strong sale.

The Big Show / Re: No Fit Shows
« on: April 29, 2022, 10:17:23 AM »
Seems like no fit should be no fit.  A hose and a brush or a blower.  Personally, I think all shows should be that way, just the cattle as they are, no deception just the animal as it is.

We don't even apply this standard to our own species while making life altering decisions.

The Big Show / Missouri Shorthorn association online sale.
« on: March 28, 2022, 10:05:14 AM »
The Missouri Shorthorn Association online sale is tomorrow the 29th. For those interested in supporting the Jr. program the sale includes several semen lots being donated to funding the Jr. Nationals in Kansas City.

Sale link.

Catalog link.

The Big Show / Re: Canadian truck convoy
« on: March 03, 2022, 06:35:34 PM »
Defund the police! And prevent the USA from becoming energy dependent!

No one wants to be a cop anymore and gas went up $.39 cents here this afternoon.

... mission almost accomplished?

Lot 19 sure looks nice!

What is MRW resources?

A company our, part time??, ASA director of performance programs has started.

The Big Show / Re: Black shorthorns
« on: February 15, 2022, 07:53:33 PM »
Not much has changed at all-Still "contemporary " to breed Shorthorns to Angus Primo and the other bull Anyone got an honest assessment of the Primos as cows? O0

My two F1s by Primo milk good, and with a neat udder, but I've heard some say theirs don't milk enough. One of mine even raised twins as a heifer. He downsized the cow in both cases, they aren't really front pasture kind even though one of them was an ET from a donor, and I have to say their length of toe is exceptionally annoying to my eye even if it has yet to cause an issue. I've watched two more grow up and go into production and would describe them similarly. One of mine did have a decent calf out of Heatseeker last year, but everything else has just been calves.

Overall they're just not power cows. They're just cows. But, they do breed back without being pampered, unlike a lot of the other popular stuff that has rolled through over the years.

The Big Show / Re: r.n.reed passing
« on: February 02, 2022, 09:58:32 AM »
I believe his last 5 replacement heifers were offered in their '21 sale. I bid on 3 of the 5 and regret not just buying one of them and ignoring the price tag. I really hope the buyers knew what they bought.

The Big Show / Re: Calving ease shorthorn question
« on: January 29, 2022, 10:49:01 AM »
Yes, Reincarnation would be a good one to consider.  Who sells Reincarnation semen?  Or his colorful son, Ronan.

Jungels had been offering a cane in his sales. It would be worth a call for anyone wanting to use the type. His sire Sultan of Jazz is available from his owner in Oklahoma as well.

I had considered using a cane of Ronan on a set of heifers this summer, but I think I'll let everyone else test out how the bottom half of that pedigree will come through.

The Big Show / Re: Calving ease shorthorn question
« on: January 28, 2022, 09:47:31 PM »
I'm looking for a calving ease shorthorn bull to AI  a couple of purebred heifers. Would like suggestions on a bull found on the open market that adds mass and shag.

Would any of the following bulls work?
Ace of Diamonds
The outsider
Hot commodity

Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Hot Commodity is the proven CE from your list.

It depends on their type and pedigree, but the Reincarnation 228Y bull is one that gets overlooked. He can deliver some of what you're looking for if the heifers can bring the rest of what's needed to the table.

Cattle Visions has added some new bulls that were previously a little harder to get, so it might be worth a look. You'll probably find you have to give up some of that mass to get the calving ease you need.

It's always interesting to me when breeders with actual breed knowledge put together and bring a pedigree like that one back. Nearly every branch is a proven entity.

The Big Show / Re: Epinal
« on: December 20, 2021, 10:51:48 PM »
I believe this is the picture you're looking for when you see Epinal in a pedigree.

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