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The Big Show / Re: Has anyone seen the calves at Shike's in Illinois
« Last post by knabe on Today at 12:58:49 PM »
Just wondering what the calves look like, the look really good in the pics
just wondering, is there a link or pics instead of a spam response?
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Was Vantage as wide at the ground as he appeared? What was his hip and pin width like?

I didn't see him when I was young (I would have been still in single figures myself when he was born) so just going by pictures. My cow is a grand-daughter and she is not the biggest (by our standards) but she is broad, smooth shouldered, good backed with 2 wide pin bones. Always calves herself. Has had four 36kg calves by four differently bred bulls, although she could easily calve bigger calves.
If I could get my hands on Vantage semen I would definitely use it.
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I know there is plenty of thick shorthorns as well, but sometimes it is hard to tell just what is naturally thick and what is myostatin. Would all breeds not have similar issues with single carrier myostatin sires?
I've used quite a few carriers, sometimes because I didn't realise it and sometimes because other options were not available.
Have bred a myostatin free bull that I thought was good enough and reasonably thick and I used him this year.
He's a grandson of the Australian bull Broughton Park Thunder and his dam goes back to Ballyart Vantage. He's a 2 year old.
Hope I've got the pictures right!

Was Vantage as wide at the ground as he appeared? What was his hip and pin width like?
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The Big Show / Re: Has anyone seen the calves at Shike's in Illinois
« Last post by Isabellaorlie on July 27, 2021, 05:35:24 AM »
Yes, you can buy calves in the Illinois but not sure about the store Shike. You can buy it from Adidas stores or any other local sports companies on assignment writing services you can find the relevant product outlets in your city so must visit for your ease to buy calves.
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is he naturally just thick then?

Yes. Him and sons top sellers at jlg


I know there is plenty of thick shorthorns as well, but sometimes it is hard to tell just what is naturally thick and what is myostatin. Would all breeds not have similar issues with single carrier myostatin sires?
I've used quite a few carriers, sometimes because I didn't realise it and sometimes because other options were not available.
Have bred a myostatin free bull that I thought was good enough and reasonably thick and I used him this year.
He's a grandson of the Australian bull Broughton Park Thunder and his dam goes back to Ballyart Vantage. He's a 2 year old.
Hope I've got the pictures right!
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The Big Show / Re: Is it Worth Marketing A Crossbred Bull
« Last post by mark tenenbaum on July 25, 2021, 10:37:49 PM »
Doesn't sound like anyone on here sells many bulls And alot of commercial breeders are NOT DUMB-they know what suits their needs CALVING EASE usually being first, good female progeny GROW and sometimes  feed conversion They also have way more exposure to xbreds of different breeds through the cattle in their herds- and thus have some idea of the strengths and weaknesses   O0
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is he naturally just thick then?


Yes. Him and sons top sellers at jlg

http://www.jlgenterprises.com/

Jlg is awesome.  Anyone wanting entry into calif dairy should contact them. They have a few odd breeds/bulls as well as mainstream angus and Holstein.
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here's a thick bull


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5rL0WRwKo

i've seen a few sons that were thick.


Good bull obviously. He definitely made good money!
Does he carry a myostatin mutation?
I looked up his registration and unless I'm reading it wrong his defects are AMF-CAF-D2F-DDF-M1F-NHF-OHF-OSF-RDF. Does this bull have this many? I am still doubting that I am reading the registration page wrongly.
I could hardly believe how long the list of possible genetic mutations there are in Angus.
The list code for myostatin seems to be DM?

If he is not a myostatin carrier is he naturally thick then? And he passes that thickness to his offspring. If he were to be used on a myostatin female carrier and she passed it on, would the resulting calves then be much thicker than that sire would normally breed?
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here's a thick bull


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv5rL0WRwKo

i've seen a few sons that were thick.
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