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Offline Rustynail

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Question on an Angus Bull
« on: February 19, 2009, 06:28:07 PM »
I was looking over some bulls, trying to decide who I should breed to.  Of course I am avoiding the "cursed blood lines."  I am not a big fan of the cattle anyway.  Have any of you heard of know anything about the Colorado State cattle.  Select sires have a new bull name CSU Ram Nation.  His father is CSU Ram Time.  Any info would be appriciated. Here is a link to the Bull


http://www.selectsires.com/beef/directory/documents/7AN300.pdf

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2009, 11:23:57 PM »
Has he been tested for AM? I see Future Direction in the dam's side...

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 07:08:26 AM »
I would hope this one has been tested but K-dog is right it has  Future Direction 5321   (Reg: #12493607) on the dam side which is a carrier. This bull's sire is NBAR Primetime, which is a calving ease bull, which I question. For calving ease I know of too many of his calves needing assistance at birth. Plus he lacks muscle in the hind quarter. 

For the fact he has Primetime as a father I wouldn't use him. But that's just my opinion.
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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 07:53:06 AM »
When TH & PHA came know we had many rant & rave if a carrier bull was suggested. Curious why that's not happening here or is it too early in the game?

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2009, 08:12:39 AM »
You will not like this answer, but I firmly believe that most angus breeders realize genetic defects are BAD, and therefore, accept test results which might have "been tested positive by an officailly approved test". (whatever THAT means).  A almost complete list has been on aaa site for quite some time.

As for the bull in question, I am not a fan. If you message me  of exactly what you are looking for Rustynail, I will try and give you first hand advice for what you specifically want to do.

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 08:12:50 AM »
I think its because some breeders don't know, some breeders cover it up, and some people don't know how th recessive defect deal works.
People can't believe we have such a big moon for such a small town.

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 08:28:24 AM »
I would also be careful of the dam being out of Furture Direction too. I personally don't like this bull just by looking at his pedigree and picture but thats just my opinion. I think there are a lot better bulls out there than him. I am going to try Silveiras El Capitan 6510 this year. I think he is going to be a pretty good bull but this is his first year out. So I might be wrong. Cattle Visions has him if you want to look at his info.

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2009, 09:00:55 AM »
Since you are looking in the Select Sires catalog anyway, have a look at the bull WAR Architect T040. Myron Benes from WAR reccomended him to me as a bull that would combine calving ease with style. If you really like style, check on a bull called Liquid Asset. JMO

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2009, 12:12:13 PM »
Thanks for all the responses.  Confirmed alot of my concerns about this bull.  Another bull that I am interested in, but a little concerned about the attitude on is Bextor.

http://www.selectsires.com/beef/directory/documents/7AN207.pdf

Had some direct EXT daughter and didn't keep them long.  Anyone ever used or seen any cattle by him.


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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2009, 01:26:04 PM »
      check out Genex bulls Lookout or Matrix eye apeal and no am

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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2009, 03:00:13 PM »
apparently no one has seen the "AMF" acronym in the top right corner which means this bull is free of curly.
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Re: Question on an Angus Bull
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2009, 03:10:17 PM »
Ok so he is free, didn't see that ;D But I think that there are better angus bulls out there. But I guess it depends on what your going for. By the way what are you looking for in the calves?

 

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