Any Sneed sale results

We had plans to head down but with a death in the family weren't able to. Any results that can be passed along? Overall feel of the sale. TIA

Prices were copied from DVAUCTION.COM.  Could not do a cut and paste and had to retype them so probably have some mistakes.

1 2000
2 2100
3 1750
4 1750
5 1500
6 1400
7 1850
8 1950
11 2000
14 1700
19 3000
26 1500
9 1600
12 2800
21 1950
17 2000
28 1500
29 1400
30 1400
25 1500
22 1450
15 1600
18 1500
20 1450
16 1400
13 1300
24 1500
70 2700
71 2700
72 2000
73 2000
74 2500
75 1800
76 2500
77 2000
78 3000
79 1850
80 3100
81 2500
82 1850
83 1950
84 1550
85 1850
87 1950
88 3450
89 2350
90 1500
31 1200
32 1500
46 1950
39 1500
40 2400
34 1650
37 1500
38 1450
47 1600
41 2700
48 1550
45 1850
44 1500
43 1450
36 1400
33 2050
49 1600
42 1550
35 1550
57 1900
59 1600
60 1450
61 1250
62 1300
63 1300
65 1200
66 1300
68 1600
67 1200
69 1200
52 1700
50 1450
51 1300
53 1400
55 1400
54 1150
56 1150
91 1450
92 1300
93 1475
94 1350
95 1400
96 1400
97 1350
104 1400
107 1000
101 1200
102 1150
103 1100
105 1100
100 1100
106 1000
108 1050
109 1000

Looks like the sale would be pushing 200,000$ without adding the numbers.Cool. I'd take that check anyday.

I watched the sale online and was really impressed with a lot of the cow/calf pairs.  I honestly thought that the people who bought them made off like bandits.  Its too bad that they hadn't split the cow/calf pairs as that would have grossed more money as I felt that the buyer bought the cow and the calf was merely a bonus.

I missed the bulls due to server issues I would have loved to have seen them in the ring.

the sale grossed $161,375.00
averaging $1614.00 per lot

There were some really good mature cows going through that ring. One in particular had a 34 son at foot that looked pretty good. So why is a Sneed bull in Sullivan's sale worth $11,500 and so much less at Sneed's. You would think there would be a lot breeders in the area that could have used some of those females. Are they waiting for them to have a SULL prefix so they can pay 5 to 10 times more for them?
Just don't get it. ???

rough sale...  1600 average is mear market price...  I'd be TO'd with that pay check, as someone above would have liked...  To much work and effort, when you could have sent them to the sale barn, and put more into the pocket book..

Actually, glad I didn't go.. This way I did not buy anything.. Woulda been on the phone all day getting the ok nod.. 

Tough, good ones too, just what's needed out there... 

Like OKtocos said, what's the differenece?  The famed 4 Letter prefix? 

I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?

aj said:

I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?

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Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit...  The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..

I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics.  I'd rather kill em all than share them.

and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.

All I am saying is that as a 23 year old know it all, I'm not sure you're qualified to carry water for Mr. Sneed. We need 20 more breeders like him in the breed to gain market share.jmo

aj said:

All I am saying is that as a 23 year old know it all, I'm not sure you're qualified to carry water for Mr. Sneed. We need 20 more breeders like him in the breed to gain market share.jmo

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and that has what to do with what?  Alls I'm saying is that check, or sale average really isn't good..  It's not much better than market price.. I'm sure Sneed is disapointed, and sadly, I don't blame him. 

Have I ever said anything Neg about Sneed's cattle, or his program?  Negitory, hell, his catalog is the only Shorthorn one I've read since last year. 

FYI- I have plans to stop by Sneeds for a meet/ greet this summer...

Aaron has me convinced that I need to use some RS, A&T, and TGCC stuff on our cows, instead of turning out the black bulls in the future...  I guess I'll give it a shot... surely it will work out.. 

AJ, you would argue with a fence post.

the truth said:

aj said:

I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?

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Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit...  The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..

I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics.  I'd rather kill em all than share them.

and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.

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I am not sure where you are selling stuff but a choice cow here only brings 80 cents lb if your lucky most avaraging 60 cents. Bulls near the same sometimes little higher at 90 cents. Feeder calves at a high 1.21 lb I doubt any those young calves were over 1000#'s. I guess have your sale post the results and then be a critic. You just sound bitter. If you don't like the cattle business get out now it can get alot worse if those are your major concerns. Believe me after 30 years in it I have seen it. :-\
The sales prices I thought were pretty good. I will take his paycheck any day.

I think he had a damn good sale. Not a real big high seller but from the results nothing brought under $1000. <beer>

Color me stupid but Robs sale probably did more to get the breed to commercial breeders than most every other sale to date! There are others just not many no offense to those of you out there that have!  The commercial guy can work off those averages not those heifers that avg  almost $9000 like they did last weekend!  And these cattle are raised and have to work in a commercial environment!  Some of those were 3 in 1 packages which makes them very reasonable to commercial guys!  Just the ramblings of cattle farmer!

truth- Where do the show people have their head stuck at? I think the Shorthorns today are the best they have ever been!!!!!!

OH Breeder said:

the truth said:

aj said:

I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?

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Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit...  The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..

I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics.  I'd rather kill em all than share them.

and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.

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I am not sure where you are selling stuff but a choice cow here only brings 80 cents lb if your lucky most avaraging 60 cents. Bulls near the same sometimes little higher at 90 cents. Feeder calves at a high 1.21 lb I doubt any those young calves were over 1000#'s. I guess have your sale post the results and then be a critic. You just sound bitter. If you don't like the cattle business get out now it can get alot worse if those are your major concerns. Believe me after 30 years in it I have seen it. :-\
The sales prices I thought were pretty good. I will take his paycheck any day.

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I pounded out a shorthorn bull, who was thin, a few months ago, and got more than 1500

peachy said:

truth- Where do the show people have their head stuck at? I think the Shorthorns today are the best they have ever been!!!!!!

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I'm sure you do. (angel)

peachy said:

I think he had a damn good sale. Not a real big high seller but from the results nothing brought under $1000. <beer>

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Those were good cattle and should have been way over market price. We (Shorthorns) have some serious marketing to do! Below are links to three of our local markets this week and our prices are probably lower than the US market. If cows are bringing 80 cents a lb. and 500 lb calves are averaging over $1.50 that's $1700 for a pair.(Assuming 1200 lb cows and 500 lb. calves) The breed needs to get the info to the commercial producer because cattle like Sneed's will work in commercial programs.
http://www.innisfailauctionmarket.com/market.asp
http://www.livestock.ab.ca/Market%20Report.html
http://www.calgarystockyards.com/?q=node/15

My figures came out to be about $2300 for a pair at the Sneed sale. That is a pretty good average!

It takes alot of confidence and gutts to breed a consistant product like RS-
Its true the lbs, uniformity and profit come into play  on  buyers purchase ( male or female) . Thats the whole point of line breeding. It takes great cattlemen to see the value in this type of program....

I  appreciate the endless number of phone calls and sight unseen purchases made through me.
The purebred business needs more full time cattlemen like RS. period

I had a great time at Sulls -  Gana Nisely has a beautiful facility. I guess more need to follow the strength and vision of buyers like sull- he definately can see the value in RS?

Sorry about your loss Juliffs-

the truth said:

OH Breeder said:

the truth said:

aj said:

I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?

Click to expand...

Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit... The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..

I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics.  I'd rather kill em all than share them.

and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.

Click to expand...

I am not sure where you are selling stuff but a choice cow here only brings 80 cents lb if your lucky most averaging 60 cents. Bulls near the same sometimes little higher at 90 cents. Feeder calves at a high 1.21 lb I doubt any those young calves were over 1000#'s. I guess have your sale post the results and then be a critic. You just sound bitter. If you don't like the cattle business get out now it can get alot worse if those are your major concerns. Believe me after 30 years in it I have seen it. :-\
The sales prices I thought were pretty good. I will take his paycheck any day.

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I pounded out a shorthorn bull, who was thin, a few months ago, and got more than 1500

peachy said:

truth- Where do the show people have their head stuck at? I think the Shorthorns today are the best they have ever been!!!!!!

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I'm sure you do. (angel)

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Again MISS MY POINT. For such a young man why are you so angry? The world is not black and white there is allot of gray in it. I read your post sometimes and just shake my head. How can someone so young have such a skewed view. Seriously.
How old was your bull? How much did he weigh? How long did you feed him? What did you have in his mother or did you buy him? Those are all the things you have to consider in that $1500. If you had him a couple years or more you lost money. If you raised him and sold him as a yearling then good for you- most of the bulls were $1600 and above in the sale as yearlings.  I would bet as intensely linebred as Sneeds cattle were and predictable performance the inputs were lot less than most folks.
Why did you not address what the sale did for the commercial aspect?

sue said:

It takes alot of confidence and gutts to breed a consistant product like RS-
Its true the lbs, uniformity and profit come into play  on  buyers purchase ( male or female) . Thats the whole point of line breeding. It takes great cattlemen to see the value in this type of program....

I  appreciate the endless number of phone calls and sight unseen purchases made through me.
The purebred business needs more full time cattlemen like RS. period

I had a great time at Sulls -  Gana Nisely has a beautiful facility. I guess more need to follow the strength and vision of buyers like sull- he definately can see the value in RS?

Sorry about your loss Juliffs-

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Sue
Did some of those awesome looking Momma cows go to some purebred herds? Looks to me like there was a lot of ways of breeding them and coming out on top. I liked the looks of Lot 81, ten years old and a bull prospect at foot. I think there should be a lot of happy buyers at this sale.