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Belted Galloway cattle?
« on: January 25, 2009, 01:06:42 PM »
What do you guys and gals think about breeding Angus or Maine heifers with these Belted Galloways to get there unique coats for eye appeal in the show arena.

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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 01:22:12 PM »
Looked at one at the NAILE that would flat out produce some steers.  HOWEVER, FWIW, I've been told by more than 1 Belted Galloway person that those things are not exactly docile cattle.  "Mean" was one word that was tossed out.       
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 01:57:24 PM »
Looked at one at the NAILE that would flat out produce some steers.  HOWEVER, FWIW, I've been told by more than 1 Belted Galloway person that those things are not exactly docile cattle.  "Mean" was one word that was tossed out.       

That heifer sure was awesome that we looked at.  I say put a bull like Yellow Jacket or Lifeline on a belted heifer and see what happens.  They have the hair and depth, if you can get a bull to put the thickness and a little bone to them, you could have some really good club calves.  Eye Candy is out of a Galloway cow (how much of a difference is ther between a Belted vs. non-belted Galloway?).
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 02:16:58 PM »
A neighbor not far from the farm runs 50 head or so of these. They seem to cross well with other bulls. His seem to be pretty docile tempered. Maybe it is just his. I thinkt they would be pretty cool with the right bull.
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 02:19:46 PM »
Looked at one at the NAILE that would flat out produce some steers.       

Not sure if you're talking about Bar J's belted heifer...if so I believe she's out of a Buelingo cow.  We've heard they don't have the best temperaments either, though the lowline influence could help, I'm sure.

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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 02:25:31 PM »
Looked at one at the NAILE that would flat out produce some steers.       

Not sure if you're talking about Bar J's belted heifer...if so I believe she's out of a Buelingo cow.  We've heard they don't have the best temperaments either, though the lowline influence could help, I'm sure.

No, this one was a straight B. Galloway.  She was a Dun & I think that she was the Res. Champion Belted Galloway at Louisville or something like that.  She was pretty amazing to look at... I was very impressed. 

Interesting to hear that you've heard the same thing RE dispositions of the Belted Galloways. 
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 02:27:49 PM »
Looked at one at the NAILE that would flat out produce some steers.  HOWEVER, FWIW, I've been told by more than 1 Belted Galloway person that those things are not exactly docile cattle.  "Mean" was one word that was tossed out.       

That heifer sure was awesome that we looked at.  I say put a bull like Yellow Jacket or Lifeline on a belted heifer and see what happens.  They have the hair and depth, if you can get a bull to put the thickness and a little bone to them, you could have some really good club calves.  Eye Candy is out of a Galloway cow (how much of a difference is ther between a Belted vs. non-belted Galloway?).

I think Yellow Jacket would be tremendous on that Dun that we saw. 
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2009, 02:33:51 PM »
A neighbor not far from the farm runs 50 head or so of these. They seem to cross well with other bulls. His seem to be pretty docile tempered. Maybe it is just his. I thinkt they would be pretty cool with the right bull.

I was actually caught off guard when I heard that they could get pretty goofy.  The girl who was working with that Dun heifer told me that some of the Belted Galloways were pretty bad.  She said that the Dun wasn't like that though.   Also a girl that was helping me, told me several stories about Belted Galloway cattle being nuts... she would know. 

I would think that some of them probably are pretty docile... certain bloodlines?   
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2009, 02:47:23 PM »
I think I'm going to experiment this with a Nice Maine heifer I have right now. I'll AI her to one of these Belted Studs and see what I come up with. I'll keep you all posted on it. Thanks for the comments. ;D

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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2009, 05:17:10 PM »
i'd rather have a belted cow.
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2009, 05:32:23 PM »
What do you guys and gals think about breeding Angus or Maine heifers with these Belted Galloways to get there unique coats for eye appeal in the show arena.

I have also been told by breeders of Belted Galloways that they can be "tricky".  However, I have some pretty extensive experience with Lowlines crossed with BueLingos.  I showed some of those crosses at Denver way before John Reed's son got involved with them.  Maybe, he saw my successful crosses and decided to try it.  Don't know.  Anyway, I have never had any trouble with my BueLingos.  Here are a bunch of pics of my favorite cow who was the dam of a couple of good ones.  Also, some of half Lowline/half BueLingo calves of different ages and different years.  Note that the calf, Paddy, who I included a couple pics of as a baby in pasture, went on to be Gr. Ch % Lowline Bull at the NILE (Billings).  The heifer, BlingBling was Res Gr. Ch % Lowline female at Billings and Stars and Stripes was a champion at both the American Royal and Denver.  Also showed another heifer crossed the same way a long time ago at Denver and she won her class, her division championship, and was part of a group of 3 that won Get of Sire at Denver.  Her name was Lightening for her lightening shaped white streak on her side. Now, not really just tooting my own horn, here, but want to point out that those crosses can work real well.  Otoh, you have to watch which BueLingos you choose to use as they are the result of the Dutch Belted crossed several times with various beef breeds to finally become a "breed" in the mid-80's.  So, some will display a little dairy characteristics.  The good news is that they milk like crazy even the real beefy ones.  Also, not sure it would matter in the world of show steers, but in the 'real' world of cattle sold in large numbers and by the pound, belted cattle are heavily penalized.  You might as give it away as take it to a traditional sale terminal.  I've been told that it's because Galloways haven't been known to marble, and, thus, not to grade choice.  That's very big in the feeder world and in the ring at a traditional terminal, the feedlots bidding don't know the difference between the several belted breeds so penalize them all.  Enjoy the pics and if you have any questions, let me know!  I'm putting them in a couple of separate posts as there are so many1  I loved my BueLingos!
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2009, 05:35:33 PM »
What do you guys and gals think about breeding Angus or Maine heifers with these Belted Galloways to get there unique coats for eye appeal in the show arena.

Here are a few more.  BTW, when breeding to a belted breed,  you won't always get the belt.  You may get a partial or none at all.
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2009, 05:39:11 PM »
What do you guys and gals think about breeding Angus or Maine heifers with these Belted Galloways to get there unique coats for eye appeal in the show arena.

....and even more!  Can anyone tell me why some of the pics don't show up embedded so everyone can just see them without downloading them?  If I have to do something differently, let me know and I'll post them again!  I'm reposting these 4 to see if it helps.
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2009, 05:40:02 PM »
Dori, I hate to tell ya, but something went amiss when you went to attach the pics, and the files are apparently empty.  I've seen a couple pics of your belteds though, and they are really nice!
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Re: Belted Galloway cattle?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2009, 05:47:10 PM »
Dori, I hate to tell ya, but something went amiss when you went to attach the pics, and the files are apparently empty.  I've seen a couple pics of your belteds though, and they are really nice!

Ok, I'll try again.  Maybe I'm trying to put too many in one post.  BTW, if I'm successful at getting them posted, they're all by the same Lowline bull, ABF Fitz S219.
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