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Title: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 24, 2013, 08:49:33 PM
I am leaning toward using all rogers bulls this year for my breeding season and wondering witch one are one(s) are the best. Anything would be appreciative. Thanks
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Muddy Creek Show Cattle on February 24, 2013, 09:10:39 PM
 rodgerscattleco@yahoo.com

Tell Wade what type of bull you are looking for in a professional manner (Spell correct and don't ask too many questions...one or two is plenty) and I am sure he will give you a recommendation. Nobody knows HIS bulls better than he does.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Ohio1 on February 24, 2013, 09:30:04 PM
rodgerscattleco@yahoo.com

Tell Wade what type of bull you are looking for in a professional manner (Spell correct and don't ask too many questions...one or two is plenty) and I am sure he will give you a recommendation. Nobody knows HIS bulls better than he does.
Good advice!
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: knabe on February 24, 2013, 09:33:09 PM
I am leaning toward using all rogers bulls this year for my breeding season and wondering witch one are one(s) are the best. Anything would be appreciative. Thanks

warlock.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: sally 10 on February 24, 2013, 10:06:49 PM
I thought you were a breed all Lautner fan? What happened to that?
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Quick fire on February 25, 2013, 05:54:04 AM
He changes his mind everytime he blinks his eyes...
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: BLININ on February 25, 2013, 06:27:56 AM
Guys Carlson, said one time he is only 8 years old, therefore can't we cut him just a little slack! I for one appreciate he is learning breeding decisions! Everybody starts somewhere, but also realize the redundancy of his post! So we might cut him some slack
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: showsteernc on February 25, 2013, 08:34:50 AM
Guys Carlson, said one time he is only 8 years old, therefore can't we cut him just a little slack! I for one appreciate he is learning breeding decisions! Everybody starts somewhere, but also realize the redundancy of his post! So we might cut him some slack
That post was referring to the age of his cow if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Quick fire on February 25, 2013, 09:02:19 AM
I believe he is 17 or 18
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Olson Family Shorthorns on February 25, 2013, 09:51:51 AM
I believe he is 17 or 18

If he is really this old, something needs to happen. If he's 8, some slack can definitely be cut.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Show stopper 95 on February 25, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
Guys Carlson, said one time he is only 8 years old, therefore can't we cut him just a little slack! I for one appreciate he is learning breeding decisions! Everybody starts somewhere, but also realize the redundancy of his post! So we might cut him some slack

he said the cow was 8

if carlson is THAT old... he is a disgrace for 8 year olds abroad!
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: hntwhitetail on February 25, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
BREED FOR POWER!!!!!!    <party>
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: CAB on February 25, 2013, 11:35:36 AM
Please be careful not to judge too quickly. You may not know all of the circumstances here. Just don't read the posts if you don't care for them.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: BLRanch on February 25, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
I have to agree with CAB. Everyone needs to start somewhere and you have to give him some credit for his enthusiasm. The industry can always use more youngsters like that. However, he has been give many good options and needs figure out what he wants in the calf. Then use a bull that gives him the best chance to get what he wants.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 25, 2013, 03:44:54 PM
i am only 14 and i have asked him before but he has not replyed and i have allot of lautner blood just need something differnt in the herd
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Part Timer on February 25, 2013, 06:21:58 PM
I don't understand why some of you are trolling on his threads if his questions bother you so much? Just ignore them and bite your tongue. There is a difference between being a child and being childish! Carlson put some thought and effort into your post and you will avoid some of the criticism. Figure out the direction you want to go with your herd and that should narrow down the decisions. I am no expert but maybe who made who or dr.who. Steers or heifers you should end up with something respectable.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 25, 2013, 06:25:59 PM
i have thought about it and i am going for steers.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Stargell8 on February 25, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
I'd be damn proud to run with a kid like this,They take an intrest and want to learn,most kids wanna sit on their butt all day.Cut them some slack.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Muddy Creek Show Cattle on February 25, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
i am only 14 and i have asked him before but he has not replyed and i have allot of lautner blood just need something differnt in the herd
There isn't a whole lot of difference...80% of both are gunna go back to Heatwave.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: obie105 on February 25, 2013, 07:11:48 PM
Where do you live in Iowa? Maybe somebody will see it and take you under their wing... When I was your age I had a couple experienced guys help me and to this day they still answer questions and give me refreshers. Everyone can learn til the day they die. Do your parents have much experience in cattle? Mine did not so I know what it was like to start from scratch. Its been 15 years now and we are just getting a program built. It takes time and luck.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 25, 2013, 07:18:38 PM
i am trying hard and not sitting on my butt. they will go back to heatwave but some wont but if they do so be it
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: HannaCattle on February 25, 2013, 07:44:14 PM
Dont be so stuck on Rodgers and Lautners, There is plenty of other good bulls out there.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Mtnman on February 25, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Carlson, it sounds like you are trying to learn something and asking lots of questions that people on here may not be able to answer with out some information on your part. Do you know the TH and PHA status on your cows? I am not sure to many folks are going to make a suggestion with out this info, and if they are carriers it narrows you selection a bunch. Is your Red cow sired by HW or a son? What have you bred these cows to before and what was the results? What kind of budget do you have for semen? Is there anything about the cows and any previous progeny that you really disliked or liked?

We all understand that you want a powerful calf but if they can't walk then your wasting your time and money. I believe folks on here will be happy to help and give you great advice if you will answer some questions and not just keep running over every bull related thread. Make some sense about what you want and what you have so the members on here can give you the answers you are looking for.

Your young and full of questions, that's great but slow down a little listen to the answers and make your questions count.

Then make a list of your top 2 or 3 bulls and make your decision.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 25, 2013, 10:28:33 PM
thank you they are not tested yet. she is out of heatwave orig. she has been bred to ali 2 and rocky belboa. they have both been crap.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 25, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
the money i have for semen like not the 5000 doller stuff but i could handle the 100 or 150 doller stuff
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Mtnman on February 25, 2013, 10:50:54 PM
I know you asked about Rogers bulls so I will mention that I have had good luck with One & Only and he is a double clean bull and would give you a double shot of HW, a bull that I have never bred to because I don't feel like he fits my cows is Hired Man, the few calves that I have actually seen from him were pretty good and he is also clean so you wouldn't need to worry about the TH and PHA. I am sure some one on here would have a better idea about Hired Man.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Cowgirl94 on February 25, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
In my opinion I agree that there is a alot of really good bulls out there but I do tend to lean torn Rodgers and Lautners bulls when we choose our bulls because we like what they have to offer. And Carlson good for you for asking questions but never second guess your first instinct is what ive learned from this business. Im only 19 and I am now picking bulls to breed to our cows and hired to choose bulls for another clubby producer. Best thing to do is look at each cow individually... See what they lack and find a bull that has what that cow lacks. Never stop asking questions but never second guess yourself over and over again on one cow... Go with your gut! Hope this helps ya just my opinion....
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 26, 2013, 07:02:33 AM
i really diddent have a first instinct. all i know is that im going for steers
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: cattleman25 on February 26, 2013, 07:43:13 AM
 I have used hairy bear and crimson tide on my heatwave females and have had pretty good luck.  both bulls are thf but crimson tide is phac but wont bother a heatwave female.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Big M Show Cattle on February 26, 2013, 10:10:40 AM
Carlson, it sounds to me that you are looking to breed for terminal calves (steers). I agree with Mtnman, the 1st thing I would do if I were you is have your cows tested for TH/PHA, is worth the money, all of mine have been tested and I only have 1 cow that is TH positive, so I have lots of breeding options out there. I would not be afraid to giving a double dose of heat wave if you breed to a son of his but have your cows tested. Ali can sometimes work on HW cows, but I like to use him on TH positive cow cause he is TH negative. I know alot of people on here don't like breeding for TH but your show winners are USUALLY TH positive. If your cows are TH negative and your using TH negative bulls, the calves will be TH negative and will not have the muscle build of the TH positive calves. Second, if you can afford it, try and get some nice replacement heifers or cows, possibly Maine/Angus crosses or Sim/Angus crosses for some cows for producing club calves. I like both of those crosses as they seem to click really good with HW genetics. But if you are going to play the club calf game, be prepared to assist during calving. So go get your cows tested, once you know that people can give you more recommendations.
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: Carlson Cattle on February 26, 2013, 10:25:06 AM
i need to get my cows tested then go frome there
Title: Re: BEST ROGERS BULLS
Post by: hntwhitetail on February 26, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
i need to get my cows tested then go frome there

Let us know.