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calf wont walk
« on: November 15, 2010, 06:41:19 PM »
 my calf has been walking fine for over a month and tonight when i gave her a pull on the halter ,she would throw her head down and wont walk
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 06:55:37 PM »
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 07:56:14 PM »
whip out the tractor and drag her if it gets bad

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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 09:18:12 PM »
don't use a tractor.  Take her to a small show and odds are, she'll be a little nervous and want to go where you are.  Give her some time but don't get rough.  We use to make that mistake also.

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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 09:52:42 PM »
"dont get rough" you cant always use this saying you have to let the calf know you are the boss

i have had a couple of heifers be dog gentle & just stop leading use a hot shot, when whoever is leading them someone else get behind them, the person leaing them as soon as they stop make a noise the SAME noise every time and then the person behind hot shot them and do it the same way every time and then they will associate that noise with the hot shot when they stop

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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 10:40:50 AM »
I will agree that some are tougher than others, but also agree with Steer4Caddy that a tractor is not always best.  Had a heifer that we put behind the tractor once and could have plowed fields with her because front legs locked and head back she refused to cooperate.  We didn't pull her but a second because we were afraid she was going to hurt her neck or legs being stubborn. 

Hopefully since she has been walking well that she was just having a bad day and will be doing better now.  Sometimes an animal wants to test you a little and if you have someone behind her to keep her moving next time she will realize she is just better off to work with you.

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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 04:50:48 PM »
whip out the tractor and drag her if it gets bad
    YOU DONT USE A TRACTOR YOU WILL HIRT  HER
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 06:57:05 PM »
you dont toss her around and kill her? YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT from the way you talk on here i doubt you can even run a tractor

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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 07:00:59 PM »
we broke 65 calves the past four years for people (we get paid to do it. and we halter break every calf we have ever sold) and if they wont lead after 2 weeks. and they fight the halter. we drag them on the tractor. never hurt a single calf if you use some sense and dont floor it. total probably 20 on the tractor so far. including all of the calves on my posts about "steer pics" they were broke with a tractor and a dodge dually
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2010, 07:03:25 PM »
we are also huge fans of hot shots. we actually took one to a show with us one time a couple of years ago to get a calf around the barns
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2010, 09:01:28 PM »
whip out the tractor and drag her if it gets bad

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wama do a bunch at one time, get a flatbed gooseneck, and tie em up..  of course, we have to have plenty of people, so that someone is sitting, or walking alongside the calf, so the calf thinks the person is pulling them, not the trailor.  don't get smashed or hurt though in the process, for either party (beast or person)

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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2010, 09:07:08 PM »
yup pull em about 4 at a time. and walk with the tractor. the calf aint real smart and he thinks you are leading him and pulling mighty hard. but like the truth said. dont get smashed (and dont stand infront of the tires because that can be dangerous and hurt a calf  ;))
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2010, 09:53:17 PM »
"dont get rough" you cant always use this saying you have to let the calf know you are the boss

i have had a couple of heifers be dog gentle & just stop leading use a hot shot, when whoever is leading them someone else get behind them, the person leaing them as soon as they stop make a noise the SAME noise every time and then the person behind hot shot them and do it the same way every time and then they will associate that noise with the hot shot when they stop

Angusboy, if you decide to use this "hot shot" idea, and you are leading the heifer, let me know what hospital you end up in, and I will send you a card. 

Seriously, that is a bad, bad idea. You are suppose to be building TRUST with your show animal, not cause fear and pain. They will associate YOU with the pain, and where do you think THAT will get ya?

Just be patient and keep working her. She will be fine. (Unless you ruin her, but using a hot shot or tractor)
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2010, 10:01:55 PM »
its just like raising a small kid. you have to have some physicall pain involved (at least my daddy used to whip me) to learn to do right. then once you do right they learn that if they lead. good things happen. they associate the pain with not leading. assuming you do it the right way. because how do you associate pain with the person when you are the one feeding that calf everyday? what you said there wasnt really logical since they associate you with feed as well.. . if the calf doesnt lead. make it lead. then eventually it will lead on its own because most of them dont enjoy the hotshot
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Re: calf wont walk
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2010, 10:06:11 PM »
"dont get rough" you cant always use this saying you have to let the calf know you are the boss

i have had a couple of heifers be dog gentle & just stop leading use a hot shot, when whoever is leading them someone else get behind them, the person leaing them as soon as they stop make a noise the SAME noise every time and then the person behind hot shot them and do it the same way every time and then they will associate that noise with the hot shot when they stop

Angusboy, if you decide to use this "hot shot" idea, and you are leading the heifer, let me know what hospital you end up in, and I will send you a card. 

Seriously, that is a bad, bad idea. You are suppose to be building TRUST with your show animal, not cause fear and pain. They will associate YOU with the pain, and where do you think THAT will get ya?

Just be patient and keep working her. She will be fine. (Unless you ruin her, but using a hot shot or tractor)
i agree with show-stopper all the way. you dont know what the heck you are talking about. the calf doesn't have to like you. it has to respect you and do what you want. the person is the boss. it is alot like raising a kid as said before. but instead of going to the shed and getting it beat out of you. you just stick with a hotshot or drag until they get the hint.

 

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