Quantcast CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???

Sponsors



Author Topic: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???  (Read 12508 times)

Offline THE HOUSE

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« on: January 22, 2008, 07:16:38 PM »
i have a heifer from Lila and Sin city that is about 1 year old and she looks good she has bone structer hair all that good stuff but i am having a problem with getting her to gain weight she is eating about 50 pounds of feed a day and just will not gain those ever needed punds to put her in the top of her class.. any sugestions on how i can gain those needed punds she was bred in august ???this is her most recent picture at the forth worth show from this past weekend she is the rone heifer in the middle being showed by the guy in the pink shirt


« Last Edit: January 22, 2008, 07:52:08 PM by SRU »
shorthorns....ALL OR NOTHING

Offline yuppiecowboy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 341
  • Karma 43
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2008, 07:27:59 PM »
Fifty pounds of grain? That is an awful lot. I am surprised she will take that much. What is your ration? There are certain things you can feed or different mixes that will help put "bloom" on a calf, but the fact is SOME shorthorns just are ectomorphic and wont put on cover. It sounds to me that you have a hard keeping heifer. If it makes you feel better my best producing cow looks like she is about to lay down and die year round regardless what she is eating.

Offline Jill

  • State Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 3551
  • Karma 206
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2008, 07:31:44 PM »
She is definitely not carring any extra condition, and for some that is a good thing, but that won't get you the placing you want.  Have you tried a finishing ration instead of a grower, try cooking corn, oil on the feed, have you tried worming her?  If you are feeding 50 pounds a day something is wrong, she doesn't have enough condition for that kind of feed intake.

Offline showgirl2010

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 245
  • Karma 14
  • H & S Miss Starburst
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2008, 07:34:51 PM »
Did you say 50lbs.?  What are you feeding her now?  We use a special ration that is basically corn and cottonseed huls and for heifers that need to be brought to their milk we add some beet pulp.  Sometimes we soak the beet pulp because its so dry.  Using less corn and more cotton seed hulls will expand their stomaches.  If you would like the ration I could post it.  We have been using it for a year now and have had very good luck with it.  Of course my dad has played around with the ration and adjusted it to our needs or the weather.  Such as take out a little bit of corn and add more of something else in the summer to help reduce heat.  Hope this helps.  
Live life to the fullest...

Offline THE HOUSE

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 07:36:31 PM »
her feed is as follows
crude protein.......   13%
crude fat............     3%
crude fiber..........   13%
calcium..............    1%
phosphorus.........  .35%
salt...................  .75%
vitamin a............    4.75 i.u/lb
vitamin d............    .80 i.u./lb
vitamin e............    .0005 i.u/lb

beet pulp & corn are also added into her feed
shorthorns....ALL OR NOTHING

Offline THE HOUSE

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2008, 07:38:13 PM »
yes please i would love to hear what everybody is feeding that is workin for them
shorthorns....ALL OR NOTHING

Offline Jill

  • State Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 3551
  • Karma 206
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2008, 07:43:57 PM »
her feed is as follows
crude protein.......   13%
crude fat............     3%
crude fiber..........   13%
calcium..............    1%
phosphorus.........  .35%
salt...................  .75%
vitamin a............    4.75 i.u/lb
vitamin d............    .80 i.u./lb
vitamin e............    .0005 i.u/lb

beet pulp & corn are also added into her feed
If you are wanting weight gain, get rid of the beet pulp!

Offline showsteernc

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 1765
  • Karma 52
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2008, 07:46:36 PM »
Cut down on the fiber.

Offline Olson Family Shorthorns

  • Moderator
  • State Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 4465
  • Karma 139
  • SULL Traveling Ruby ET
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2008, 07:46:45 PM »
THE HOUSE- I just messaged you, I sent you our feed recipe.  If anyone is interested, let me know, it's a pretty popular mix used by alot of top producers.
Shorthorn cattle and genetic opportunities available at all times. (515) 520 1972

Offline OH Breeder

  • Forum Moderator
  • National Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 5954
  • Karma 279
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2008, 07:48:29 PM »
There are lots of rations that will add fat. I would reduce the amount of protein and also get rid of beet pulp. Increase corn and decrease oats. 60/40 ration or 70/30 ration for a while will increase weight. If you feed a prebagged feed check to see if they have that type of ration. Or you can add cracked corn to your ration and mix. Or you can have your elevator mix custom.
Life is too short....don't sweat the small stuff.

Offline AAOK

  • Forum Moderator
  • National Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 5264
  • Karma 162
    • View Profile
    • Asklund Acres
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 07:50:50 PM »
Let's address your ration as is, before you add anything.  It is a developer, and is short on esential minerals and vitamins. Go buy a brand name finisher ration, and feed her 15 pounds, twice a day. Also, keep out a quality mineral for her, Free Choice.  Add one flake of good hay per day.  If she has the genetic make-up to gain, she will.

Offline THE HOUSE

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 07:54:33 PM »
her sire is af sl sin city, and her dam is cf rodeo lila 490 you can look them up under the serch engine on the website shorthorn.org
shorthorns....ALL OR NOTHING

Offline THE HOUSE

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Karma 0
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008, 07:58:25 PM »
i have been adding a few scoops of cracked corn to her feed. could it be that all the protien is too much for her age and she is burning off any nutrients she is taking in
shorthorns....ALL OR NOTHING

Offline showsteernc

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 1765
  • Karma 52
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2008, 07:58:40 PM »
THE HOUSE- I just messaged you, I sent you our feed recipe.  If anyone is interested, let me know, it's a pretty popular mix used by alot of top producers.
I'd like it please when you get a chance.

Offline showsteernc

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 1765
  • Karma 52
    • View Profile
Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2008, 08:00:47 PM »
I don't think its to high on protein. i agree with the others. move her to a finisher and you will probably see better results. make sure the fiber is below 10% if not lower IMO. If you look at feeds such as Umbargers Cattle Blaster or Kalmbach maybe you can get a better idea on the levels.

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
5 Replies
5089 Views
Last post June 16, 2015, 12:59:23 PM
by Duncraggan
2 Replies
6677 Views
Last post September 08, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
by crystalcattle
0 Replies
1032 Views
Last post September 27, 2015, 05:41:27 PM
by robhaw38
18 Replies
11479 Views
Last post December 18, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
by vc
6 Replies
3355 Views
Last post June 12, 2016, 12:27:08 AM
by Annieboon

Powered by EzPortal

SteerPlanet Designed Websites

SteerPlanet Designed Websites

Steer Planet Classifieds & Auctions

Breeder Directory