charolais, charolais cross heifers. need some bull opinions please

what would you breed these girls too. the pb. charolais is out of a wyoming wind son. and the other heifer is a cool colored (white/smoke paint) Char-maine out of wyoming wind and a draft pick cow. the paint is a heifer that we are going to breed in january and the pb char is 4 months bred and im wanting some 2nd calf bull opinions for her. these are not show heifers. we want them to be show calf momas and if possible id like to breed them to an exotic bull that can add bone and power and throw some color or chrome and have good babies that can slick off. thanks. braden house

Personally I would love to see a purebred Grid Maker calf out of the top heifer but if you insist on crossbreeding her I might try Sun Seeker, Jake's Proud Jazz (chromed up for either of those probably) or a good Jazz son.  Good luck with them!  (thumbsup)

I really like Warrant on char cows, actually for any cows. He does a great job of adding bone without making them course jointed. They are also born easily and develop into very fuctional cattle.

I have 3 Escalade Babies they are nice babies and born the right size. They have color but their mothers have color. They are babies.

i can definatly rethink cross breeding the purebred for another purebred calf. who owns warrant and escalade? id like to go look them up and thanks for the comments and suggestions!

Escalade is the 2009 cream of the crop fall bull sale lot 1 . they have a video of him on collinscattleservices.com under past sale archives. I have 2 black and white out of black cows and a red and white out of Charolais cross foreplay daughter

What are these heifers pedigrees?  EPDs?
Also what do you want to improve here?  If you want power,  muscle, and bone look at SVY Pilgrim from GENEX.  Would you consider a red factor bull?  Do you require a negative birth weight EPD?
Keep in mind any bull I mention has a superior maternal background.  Check my previous posts on this very issue for for other bulls that may work for you.

mark h i sent u a p.m.

Roger,

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thank you. p.s guys. the paint calf was bought on steerplanet about a week ago from goliad cattle