deerpark improver 3rd

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OLD WORLD SHORTIE

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red said:
shortyjock89 said:
knabe- good call..that is an excellent example of top Angus genetics.  I think that the first Shorthorn entry into the hall of fame should be Deerpark Improver.  , He is the basis for soo many herds today. I think that ELBEE should know. ;D   Irish genetics really pushed the Shorthorn breed to be the maternal powerhouse that it is (well, it is if you have the right kind of animals).  Descendants of Improver's still perform quite well in the showring and go on to make excellent cows.  He is what I would call "The Irish Cow Changer"        There are soo many other good Shorthorn bulls that I could talk about all day long, but Improver should be at the top of any Shorthorn breeder's list.

I have a question for you Shortyjock89- which Improver? Elbee sent me this message (hope you don't mind me sharing it Lee?):
"I'm assuming, for what that's worth, that you mean Deerpark Improver.
Deerpark Improver 3rd is the bull my father purchased in the 70's, and is
the hub of our program. Incidentally, Dr. Beever discovered there was no
parental link between old Improver and the 3rd, and as a matter of fact the
3rd has no link to any known Irish. Therefore I consider the 3rd
"foundation".
The Deerpark Leader (Dividend) line was just, if not more influential, than
the Improver line."
http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=514.15 old thread kind talk a little about him.
 

knabe

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maybe you are just trying to finger the dirty doer?

or you think your original guess might be clean and you think he is as the culprit is probably the 3rd's sire?

you want the earliest clean from the earliest dirty?

take that ear punch yet?

the longer you wait, the higher the odds of negative syndrome.  oh wait, you already have that.
 

knabe

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crybaby said:
thoughts, comments, pictures?

the people who would have commented the best, you and your kind have chased away a long time ago.

besides, you hate shorthorns.  what possible benefit could there be to providing you information?
 
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