I thought he was out of another female altoghether-As far as him being an outcross-I think with Vortec,2 or more shots of Improver 57-Rodeo at least 3 times-the 3d cow (we had a full sib to one of the bulls in his pedigree) Warrior,and the great Double Trouble Zelda cow,and the Canadian side,(I think the cow is sired by 85s sire-correct me okotoks if not)which you can see just from the picture.-HES HARDLY an outcross-as much as a THROWBACK-to cattle a few years ago-when Cagwin had the Lemmings jumping off the cliff at will.Hes ideal on: Sonny-or lined Trumpx Rose deals 1:-by pedigree:-and2: because his dam has already worked with BOTH LINEAGES.In his background are some of the BEST Rodeo-Vortec-shot of clubby cattle in the breed-now or then. I LIKE HIM BETTER,now that Ive seen his pedigree.Again-the only thing that would concern me is the BW-deal. If I use one bred like him-It needs to be a proven low BW pedigree-female-Which Ive really worked at producing.Now in response to the growth issue-we had some really big cows at Deertrail-several a ton or better,and living in alot harsher conditions than anything at Wankels or Cagwins.In fact Deertrail Vebop-a junior Walker daughter-recently went 1900 pounds in her prime,as did Carla (another JW daughter) ask Dave McFarland. The biggest bulls of the 90s:-Awesome-T-bone-Mad Max-Sagebrush,and the unknowns that went North,all came from Deertrail. I started changing direction in 1995-because the cattle werent thick enough for me-or if they were-they were pretty course made,and I ended up somewhere in the middle of the road-with 1350-1500 pound 4.5-5+- frame females.In 1994-95 I raised a Dextro Bull which shoulda brought $4000-and disappeared to some Kansas doofusses who let him die of footrot,and Lawrence raised Deertrail Buckshot-who came out of the smoothest,biggest Maine- Dual cow on the place -YES COVINO 2 and others were really in the background-dont tell JIT,or Shadybrooke.When I say one isnt my style-its not necessarily the size issue-its how they are made,in my opinion.Harold Hoskins had some huge thick cattle-We knew they had fullblood Maine-Deertrail Breeding-a lied about Charolais bull and Simmintal-you just didnt know exactly what they really were.Back to the beginning-Bonito didnt seem to make a dfferance on Mitches cow-all hers have beengood ones. O0
