Found some semen today

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hamburgman

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Found some Sull-GNCC salute semen today in the tank, is it even worth anything anymore or in demand?

Also found some RB Eagle 255th (I am pretty sure that is what it is).  Any market for this or was he just overly extreme for people.
 

Bawndoh

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We have 3 working females out of Salute and I would definitely not throw them to the ground.  They all came under 90 pounds as babies from RA cows.  As 3/4 year old cows they all have clubby calves on them now from Blindside and Salty Dog and they are doing great.  They have very good udders, milk well, have lots of grow, and great personalities.  I wouldnt throw them out.  We have a Facebook page with pictures of the Salute cows, and their clubby calves if you are interested in having a look. https://www.facebook.com/LongwayRanch.
 

justintime

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As most of you know, I have been using a son of Salute in our herd and we are really pleased with how he has been breeding for us. In 4 calf crops we have not assisted a single calf. They have the best performance we have used and they have excellent muscling and style. Our best carcass data also comes from sons and grandsons of Timeline.  Here is an email I received from a lady who ranches in Alberta and she purchased 2 sons of Timeline last year and came back to buy two more bulls this year. She said" First I gotta say that I am sure happy with the bulls from last year. Blue Chip had 27 first calving heifers. After 24 days of calving he only has 3 left to calf. Zip Code had 35 head of second calvers and there are 7 left to calve after 24 days. We have not touched a calf from either bull. I am really impressed with the calves and their extra muscling is evident right from birth. The calves we have from both bulls are some of the most impressive we have ever had." 

Both these bulls were yearlings when they bred these females Blue Chip had a rib eye area of 14.8 square inches and Zip Code had a 17.3 sq inch ribeye at 12 months.  These Timeline bulls averaged 15.4 sq inches and all but one sold to a commercial herd. The one that sold to a purebred operation was HC Marksman 25Z who was just named All American for Moore Shorthorns, Jerseyville, IL.  I have heard from every person who purchased one of them and they are all very happy. Another thing I will mention is that every bull we have had from the Salute line has had testicles above breed average in size.
So please don't put all the offspring from any sire in one basket. Like Maureen has posted above, my direct Salute daughters are excellent working females. Great udders, milk well and are fertile. Our high selling heifer in our Sun Country sale was from one of our Salute daughters and sold for $5150. She has now had 4 calves and 3 have averaged $4200 so I think she is earning her keep here. The fourth calf from this Salute daughter is now in our herd and she is one of our best replacement heifers.  I only had 7 direct Salute calves born here, and every one was born unassisted. Dump it on the ground if you want to, but I think it would be your loss. I would like to know how many Salute calves any of the people have had themselves that suggested his semen be dumped. He may not be the most popular bull around right now, but I don't think it is totally worthless. 
 

firesweepranch

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We raised a Salute x simm steer a few years ago. He fed great, finished off wonderfully, and tasted great! We placed well in shows with him, he looked like a paint horse in his markings. Here is a pic of him...
 

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mark tenenbaum

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I can see how red angus would change a salute-maybe like proud jazz bellringer etc as far as Bws-And its fine that Salute posed no problems for certain concerns-THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE with my partners in Ks-and they had 3-and are down to one-who just had a c-section-Thier cattle and mine are pretty low Bw-and the C-section came on a 3 year proven hiefer bull-with my breeding in 2-3 animals  of the pedigree-So thats been my experience-and Ive heard of a NUMBER of others similar-sorry-the numbers on purebred Shorthorns down here dont show him as a trustworthy or functional animal: and the females they had out of "good cows" are harddoing as hell-along with the calving problems. O0
 

sue

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Salute is DS free ! This breeding has not or will not be included in my personal program. I just happen to notice the owners posted his DS results.

255 semen posts as $15 on Jungels web page. He was covering cows when I saw him at Dereks in 2005, this muscle shape appeals to some but I preferred Eagle 239 ( brother) in person over 255?  I used the sire of both bulls- RB Eagle 148 just once.  Rocker Brothers are no stranger to breeding shorthorn bulls, very old and very respected breeder. Eagle 148 covered cows a very long time. He was at Leveldales sale in 2002.

American Shorthorn has a classified section if you are trying to resell the semen.

 

sue

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For as old as Eagle  148 was he looked great on display during the 2002 sale.
I just remembered why we stopped at Dereks the summer of 2005:  The spring of 2005 at Leveldales we purchased - Leveldale Javelin as a calf ( Alta Cedar Ultimate 130K x Leveldale  Janet by Eagle 148) . Les had to be the first to use ultimate 130K in the US?  Janet was full sib to the national champion bull "Tex".... and Tex produced "tonic" of Cates Farms.
Any way  in the "bred heifer lot" stood a eagle 255 daughter that Leveldale purchased from Derek. She was a tank - dry cow but a tank. I believe she is in Leveldale's flush pen now.So later in 2005  I saw her full brother "real world" who sold for a chunk of money to Byland, Leveldale and Leachman?  Real world was not the deepest bodied bull calf but very thick ended and sired by 255. 
Javelin grew into more frame then anyone might have expected probably just the combination as neither side of his pedigree were short legged cattle. Not calving ease but good natured bull.
 

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