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Re: Frame scores - how small is too small?
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2012, 01:23:40 PM »
DRB. That is the same argument you used with the table on the first page. Working of your figures with the price grid I supplied those lowline cattle made $3000 more but as I and Mill Iron A have pointed out as the calves grow out to slaughter the small ones are left behind. You may make a profit this year but will struggle to get repeat buyers next year.

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Re: Frame scores - how small is too small?
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2012, 01:55:36 PM »
DRB must not have enough ground to background yearlings, nor a group large enough for a feedlot. Hence why he wants the smaller framed  cattle.  Pry just doing the ol matching your cows to your environment huh DRB?

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Re: Frame scores - how small is too small?
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2012, 01:54:53 PM »
http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=37038.msg323322

Link to a post I just made concerning a couple of graphs I created a bit ago-- compares frame score to feed efficiency- during the 08-11 WIU bull tests

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Re: Frame scores - how small is too small?
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2012, 10:07:33 AM »

Sure guys, jump all over the small-moderate frame guy.  I was only pointing out some possibilities.  I don't have any problems with repeat buyers, and the scenario I was proposing was a small-moderate framed commercial cow herd combined with a growthy terminal cross bull (in a cow-calf operation selling stockers at the sales barn).  I don't have a lot of use for a frame 3 bull, and especially not one that won't grow. Same deal on the opposite end, I don't have any use for big old cows that bring in a dinky calf, eat all my grass and don't breed back.  My ideal range is from 4.5-5.5, I need them to grow quickly and finish early on grass and hit that at 18 months +/-.  This means they need to stop growing and start finishing sooner than most I guess.  I have no use for cattle that just keep growing and growing in my scenario.

For sure, match to your environment and goals - to each his own. 

I don't understand the poor marketing comment - so everyone who sells 5 weight cattle is a poor marketer?  The only reason feeders can justify paying close to $2.00/lb for these calves is because they can make some of that back on the cheap gains to make it pencil out - so in affect you are already getting paid for cheap gains and don't have to do anything yourself.  Profit at the moment is selling stockers, think feeders and packers margins are pretty thin.

 

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