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Steer Planet Chat => The Big Show => Topic started by: sancho78017 on December 02, 2008, 12:33:27 PM

Title: Grand Champion
Post by: sancho78017 on December 02, 2008, 12:33:27 PM
This is my sons (lead On x Heatwave) steer... what do you think
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: red on December 02, 2008, 12:41:02 PM
I like the rear profile more than the side.

Red
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: ShowmanQ on December 02, 2008, 01:45:28 PM
Looks like he is going to be a real "red meat" steer. I do not like his profile much, but as he grows and drops in flank he may turn out. I like him from the rear. He should make a good market steer project for your son. Good Luck
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: knabe on December 02, 2008, 02:34:21 PM
i know i'm old school, but the two things i'd do FIRST, is flatten out his shoulder with clipping so it doesn't make him look so shallow behind his elbow, and SECOND, learn to get his feet placed quickly without fiddling and get his back up.  you might even do this in reverse depending on where the judge is.  have him keep his back up consistently.  the danger with getting their back up is it might make them stand a little narrower, but your animal doesn't appear to be in danger there. 

the guy on the stick needs to be a little more professional looking, close your mouth and don't let your lower lip flop in the wind (i have that problem), look more intent and confident, ie look at the guy next to you, maybe make your feet a little more parallel, lean slightly forward, or even just tilt your head a little down like the guy next to you, and don't look like you are holding his head the calf's, up even though it looks like you could, you actually want to deemphasize that.  YOUR power is overpowering the animal.  try and make yourself invisible, i'm not commenting on your weight, your a big guy, it's not a big deal.  see if you can get your calf's head up and let the lead lay over your hand with it set like you are shaking hands with your thumb on top of the lead.  these are old school images, sorry, i can't help it, i'm old.  the other thing, focus on not telling the steer to lean towards you.  you are partially doing that with the way you are holding his head up.  you are not atlas, you are presenting an animal.  the other thing to do is  obvious which is don't get stuck so close to someone by either allowing your animal to do that  or the other person doing that.  practice on crowding your animal with other animals at practice and help him not move.  usually what happens is that your animal moves into someone else because the ring is crowded and people aren't used to moving their animals fluidly in cramped quarters with precise efficient placement.  when you can, it realllllly sets you apart as you can set your animal up quicker.  if you look, judges are usually scanning and do this on purpose to see who is adjusting.
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: CJC on December 02, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
i know i'm old school, but the two things i'd do FIRST, is flatten out his shoulder with clipping so it doesn't make him look so shallow behind his elbow, and SECOND, learn to get his feet placed quickly without fiddling and get his back up.  you might even do this in reverse depending on where the judge is.  have him keep his back up consistently.  the danger with getting their back up is it might make them stand a little narrower, but your animal doesn't appear to be in danger there. 

the guy on the stick needs to be a little more professional looking, close your mouth and don't let your lower lip flop in the wind (i have that problem), look more intent and confident, ie look at the guy next to you, maybe make your feet a little more parallel, lean slightly forward, or even just tilt your head a little down like the guy next to you, and don't look like you are holding his head the calf's, up even though it looks like you could, you actually want to deemphasize that.  YOUR power is overpowering the animal.  try and make yourself invisible, i'm not commenting on your weight, your a big guy, it's not a big deal.  see if you can get your calf's head up and let the lead lay over your hand with it set like you are shaking hands with your thumb on top of the lead.  these are old school images, sorry, i can't help it, i'm old.  the other thing, focus on not telling the steer to lean towards you.  you are partially doing that with the way you are holding his head up.  you are not atlas, you are presenting an animal.  the other thing to do is  obvious which is don't get stuck so close to someone by either allowing your animal to do that  or the other person doing that.  practice on crowding your animal with other animals at practice and help him not move.  usually what happens is that your animal moves into someone else because the ring is crowded and people aren't used to moving their animals fluidly in cramped quarters with precise efficient placement.  when you can, it realllllly sets you apart as you can set your animal up quicker.  if you look, judges are usually scanning and do this on purpose to see who is adjusting.

I do not like his profile; but he looks good from behind.
I agree with knabe (I'm old school also).
Walk in that ring like you have the baddest calf out there that nothing can beat it. Tie his head up for and hour that way your not struggling to hold his head up at the shows.   
Just me; But it looks like you need to do some work on the hair(cow licks). Comb it down(use shaving cream if you have to) are which ever way to get them to lay flat and then forward till you get the hair trained.
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: braunvieh on December 02, 2008, 03:20:36 PM
I think the rear view shows that he has a lot of thickness and muscle expression. I would like to see the topline stronger. Looks like he will really be a meat wagon when he is finished. Good luck!
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: Austin on December 02, 2008, 05:51:31 PM
The rear is definitely the strong point. I see good potential. Nice work!  :)
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: linnettejane on December 02, 2008, 06:07:41 PM
i think in the first pic he looks a little "parked out" on the front end....moving those front feet back just an inch or two might bring his back up a little...jmo...
also when on the rail, i would probably offset his back feet just a bit...bring the one against the rail forward an inch or two...this might add a little more dimension....
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: sancho78017 on December 02, 2008, 09:42:12 PM
Thank you guys for your feed back on the Steer, i would especially like to thank knabe on his comments on the way my son is showing the steer.  I always tell him that the steer is not the only thing the judge looks at, and i think by me letting him read this he knows that it's true.  Now we can start working on the items that need work on. As for the hair well i don't worry to much about its, since our county show is a slick show and so is San Antonio plus Houston.  Thank you all for you time and comments

Robert Sanchez
Title: Re: What do you think
Post by: sancho78017 on February 03, 2009, 09:35:26 AM
Hello, welll i just wanted to post this.... Below is the steer that i had posted some time ago to recieve some remarks from the fellow Steer Planeters.  And i am happy to report that the same steer has won the county show in frio county.  thank you

Robert Sanchez
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: CAB on February 03, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
 (clapping) <party>, Congrats. Job well done. Brent
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Throttle on February 03, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
 (clapping) Big Congrats! Enjoy it, appreciate it.  So many people put in so many years and so much work and never reach that goal, so way to go!
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: red on February 03, 2009, 10:28:55 AM
 (thumbsup)    <party>
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: knabe on February 03, 2009, 10:34:37 AM
i think the smile is crowding out the steer in the picture. ;D
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: kanshow on February 03, 2009, 10:36:19 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!!   <party> <party>  The steer looks great but the smile on your son's face is PRICELESS!!!!  (clapping) (clapping)
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: GLZ on February 03, 2009, 10:37:07 AM
Congrats.

For the record, nice trophy for winning Grand at a County Fair, that thing is enormous
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: steermomintx on February 03, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Congratulations job well done!!!  That picture is priceless!!!
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: justme on February 03, 2009, 11:58:24 AM
wish I had him in a carcass contest...I bet his carcass will hang great!

Great Job!
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Jeff_Schroeder on February 03, 2009, 12:17:39 PM
Who'd you buy him from?
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: steermomintx on February 03, 2009, 01:14:49 PM
Where did you purchase him??
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: linnettejane on February 03, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
 <party> (clapping) (thumbsup)
steer looks great!  son looks soooo happy!    ;D congrats! 
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Zach on February 03, 2009, 02:37:26 PM
thATS a big ol trphy, keep it shiny.


btw we should add a winners section....
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Nasc on February 03, 2009, 02:45:03 PM
Very nice, good job and thanks for the update
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Silent Hollow Farm on February 03, 2009, 06:23:08 PM
 Congratulations good job ;D  (clapping) (thumbsup)
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Cattledog on February 03, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
Congrats! (clapping) (clapping) He sure did mature into a nice steer.
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: CM Cattle on February 03, 2009, 07:11:32 PM
Congratulations!!! <party> <party> (clapping)
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: Spring Creek Farms on February 03, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
I wish my steers had that much muscle.... Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Grand Champion
Post by: STX on February 03, 2009, 09:49:13 PM
Really nice calf, this family can feed one and do it right. The young man is one of my students and yes the smile is priceless. The calf weighed 1280 lbs and slicked really nice. He is a meat wagon. Again congrats to the whole family because that is what it is a family affair. STX