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#1 showman

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I have been having a lot of trouble heat detecting with the heat we have been having. Its been upper 90's up to 100 lately with no break. Last night I had one cow that had stopped cycling jump on a heifer. She just jumped once and she jumped on her head. The heifer that got jumped on didnt seem to move and she had also stopped cycling. Tonight I saw the cow do the same thing to the same heifer. None of the other cows seemed interested at all about jumping on any body. I have been watching them closely and I have seen nothing else. The cow that was also doing the jumping came back into heat about a week ago and I AI'ed her. I have seen something like this before. I have a heifer that came into heat and I AI'ed her. After a week and a half after I bred her she had a very small amount of discharge and one steer jumped her once and that was it. She has passed when she was supposed to cycle and never showed any signs. Do you thing this heifer is bred? What about the cow? Is it normal to have cows stop cycling in the heat? Is there a way to make the ones that have stopped start again? Any suggestions
 

leanbeef

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I think it's a lot to expect cattle to cycle and breed in the type of weather we've been having, even when they're left to take care of business on their own! It's very difficult to catch cattle in heat and time artificial insemination with much success during hot summer months. Some females may not cycle, and a lot of them may show little to no signs even if they do. And to compound the frustration, just because an animal tries to mount another one time, that may not mean either of them is actually in heat. Cows are known to exhibit that kind of behavior occasionally just because... All those factors can make heat detection during summer time super frustrating to me.

For the most success, I think you have a couple of options...
1) Turn a bull out with those cows! Sure, everybody prefers an AI calf, but isn't A calf a better alternative than NO calf? A lot of small breeders think they can handle the business of breeding cattle without having a bull on the place, and all I can say to that is good luck. I guess if you're not real particular about breeding seasons or cows calving every 15-18 months, then it's not a big deal. I'm pretty good at AI, and I'm realistic enough to know I'm not gonna get 100% of them bred. And I'm not willing to sacrifice a good cow because something didn't go right in the AI barn. We try to calve for 60 days in the spring and 60 days in the fall, and I would say 98% are within that window. If we have a straggler one year, she has the next year to catch up, but that means we don't even try to AI her...she goes straight out with the bull. We AI for 3 weeks starting March 20th and another 3 weeks starting on Thanksgiving, and we own the best clean up bull we can afford. If you can't afford to own a good bull, figure out some way to lease one.

2) Think about a shift in your calving season. I don't understand late spring and summer born calves...I never have. Our spring cows used to calve February through April, and we had the same problems...we were STARTING our breeding season right when the weather was getting hot. And cows were calving right when grass was coming up, meaning extra rich milk and big bags at calving time. We had more calf sickness and more problems in general. When we started having some early calves for whatever reason, they always did better. We pushed our breeding season earlier each year, and now we start calving around New Years Day, with most of the calves being on the ground before the end of January. The calves are big enough to eat grass when it starts coming in March, and the cows are gaining weight, cycling like crazy and ready to breed when we bring em in. Early born commercial calves are heavier when the market typically hits a high in August--compare average calf prices for the last however many years...February and August are the highs. The market will be flooded in the fall...

Personally, what's worked for us is to adopt BOTH these practices, and I feel confident it's made our program a lot more manageable. I understand some parts of the world have different weather and other factors to deal with, but summer seems to be hot everywhere. January may not be a good time to calve cows out where ever you are, but I would look at some time of year so you're not trying to get cows bred in July. Cattle like cold weather better than hot, and they do better in cold than they do in heat in most cases. The toughest calving season besides summer heat is when it's wet...you'll have more scours and lose more calves in wet weather than you will in cold weather if you can keep em relatively dry.
 

CAB

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As far as moving the calving season, it kind of depends on where spring is located for you. Spring time in Tn. is a whole lot different than spring in the northern states. We can easily have blizzard conditions well into March and even occasionally April & if you are not fortunate enough to have facilities to accommodate those type of conditions you maybe had better breed for April & May calves.
 

leanbeef

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CAB said:
As far as moving the calving season, it kind of depends on where spring is located for you. Spring time in Tn. is a whole lot different than spring in the northern states. We can easily have blizzard conditions well into March and even occasionally April & if you are not fortunate enough to have facilities to accommodate those type of conditions you maybe had better breed for April & May calves.

Yep...that's absolutely true.
 

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