Heff Bull ???????

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mk407

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I have seen this bull as the sire of a few here recently in online sales. Can someone please tell me any information about this bull....owners,breeding, semen cost , where to buy etc...... thanks
 

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The 2014 Houston Grand Champion steer is supposed to be a Rapid Rewards bull x HW; Rapid Rewards is by Hef out of a Yahtzee female.  I haven't been able to find Hef, either, so had the same questions as you.  Here is Rapid Rewards, he is available through Genesource.  Interestingly enough, the dam of that grand champion steer is supposed to be a HW heifer.  RR doesn't appear to be CE, but maybe he is.
 

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I called Wyman Poe who is a distributor, he said RR is a calving ease bull.
 

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Hef is a bull owned by airhart, but I don't have any idea what he is exactly.

The Champ Charolais at SA this year was a Hef if I understood it right.  The guy that told me that had a very good bit small red Hef calf, but he told me it would never get very big.  He said hardly any Hef calves do - that the SA calf was the first one he'd seen with enough grow to win in the end.
 

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Sheep said:
Might be CE for the char breed but for a Heat wave heifer..?  (lol)

I hear ya, but here it is, right there on the blog....
 

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chambero said:
Hef is a bull owned by airhart, but I don't have any idea what he is exactly.

The Champ Charolais at SA this year was a Hef if I understood it right.  The guy that told me that had a very good bit small red Hef calf, but he told me it would never get very big.  He said hardly any Hef calves do - that the SA calf was the first one he'd seen with enough grow to win in the end.

Distributor told me it was the reserve who was sired by Hef, and this one was also out of a heifer.  Here's a picture of the reserve at San Antonio.
 

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I watched Houston; I was struck by how the grand steer always seemed to have perfect foot placement and how he just seemed to walk into it on his own.  Almost as if the steer knew on his own exactly where to place his feet when they came to a stop. Now, whether that was trained into him, or just how he was built, or maybe a combination of the two, it impressed me.  I'm sure it impressed the judge; everytime he looked at him, the steer was set up.  And it carried through to his expression.....head always up, ears forward.  He was always ready with an all eyes on me attitude, even when he was in the background as you looked at the others.  Drew your eyes back everytime.

 

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Sheep said:
Hey I guess even if you kill the cow, if you sell a steer to Bonham's you make a little bit of pocket change...

You northern boys have way more calving trouble with the same genetics than we do down here.  I guess its just a combination of environmental and handling procedures.  I've been using Heat Wave bloodlines for 10 years (probably breeding 50-60 hd/yr avg to him or his sons) and have pulled one calf out of a mature cow in that whole time period.

I can believe Hef is supposed to be calving ease because the calves I've seen have been pretty small as 5-6 months of age.  I have no idea on Rapid Rewards, but I suspect we'll have a pretty good idea a couple of years from now by the time everybody and their dogs breeds heifers to him next fall.
 

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There's something to that.  I got antsy and put some semen of a 914 son in a heifer and got a 62# heifer, while my buddy up north using the same bull had a hundred birthweights ranging mostly in the 90-100# range.  I got nervous after I looked at all the BW of that bull's progeny (after having put it in the heifer) but it worked out just fine.  He doesn't feed any "grain", either.  They get hay and corn silage, and his part of Minnesota has crazy cold winters.  His cattle are always fat as ticks when he brings them to Texas sales.  Maybe it's the corn silage that grows 'em so big, I don't know.
 

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Sooo who wants to see a picture of hef? I've done my digging through old magazines for the day and if your really nice I might post it along with full pedigree
 

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Here he is after 3 hours of looking

This is why you don't throw away magazines and why you don't base breeding options off of pictures

September 2009 showbox page 118- zoom in for pedigree
 

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There is a big difference in birth weights from north and south because of the winter more so than what they are fed because when it's cold more blood goes through the cow mainly in the uterus of the cow making the calf bigger. I got talking to my vet about this while we were cutting a 115# calf out of a first calf heifer which was bred to a bull who has never thrown a calf over 80#s. He made the comment that the same matings calved in the spring vs. calving them in the fall will be 10#s heavier just because of the weather.
 

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That's some of airharts secret stuff haha I'm not gonna pursue that I know they are a secret!

I had to try to compete with you always finding this cool stuff making us search for once
 
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