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« on: September 18, 2013, 08:25:18 PM »
What has been everyone's experience using virgin heifers as receipts?

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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 10:09:20 AM »
I have no experience with recips(yet), but would hate to see heifers calving out calves thrown by clubby bulls.


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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 10:56:18 AM »
What has been everyone's experience using virgin heifers as receipts?

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I'm not sure why someone would try this, unless their embryo calves are "heifer safe". Even then I'm not sure I'd take the chance of using a heifer.
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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 12:38:08 PM »
They settle better that than cows, but milk less and have dystosia more often.  Unless they are maternally bred and the eggs going in are calving ease, I would stick with mature cows for recips.

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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 03:16:50 PM »
What has been everyone's experience using virgin heifers as receipts?

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None, I wouldn't put an embryo in a heifer. I don't implant embryos in my cows until they are 4.
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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 03:24:02 PM »
They settle better that than cows, but milk less and have dystosia more often.  Unless they are maternally bred and the eggs going in are calving ease, I would stick with mature cows for recips.
Interesting, didn't know that. Nice to know.
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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 03:28:11 PM »
if you are going to all the expense and the work to put in embryos, why wouldn't you want to give that ET baby the very best momma possible?
We put our embryos into mature cows that can themselves produce replacement females or bull prospects;
cows that milk well, breed easily, calve easily.

you do embryos with the idea that the resulting calf will exceed the value of a live natural calf from most of your other cows;
superior genetics or superior sale value.
if the resulting calves from ET aren't worthy of a great momma, then probably they aren't of the quality that you should be bothering with.

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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 04:06:13 PM »
Some of our best E.T. calves are out of virgin heifers. The embryos that are put in them are out of calving ease bulls and our popular donors. Just watch the matings I guess.
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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 08:14:05 PM »
In the early 70's we used holstien heifers, they all calved close together, then doubled up the calves and sold one heifer that would usually pay the bill on the work. They settle easy, don't have attitude problems, and will love you if they know where the feed bunk is

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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 08:32:03 PM »
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Exactly. Going to start taking the Holstein x angus cross heifers from our farm and use em for recips. Those calves should be some low bellied ground sows with all that milk!
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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 08:41:56 PM »
In the early 70's we used holstien heifers, they all calved close together, then doubled up the calves and sold one heifer that would usually pay the bill on the work. They settle easy, don't have attitude problems, and will love you if they know where the feed bunk is

Reminds me of putting 3 or 4 calves on sale barn dairy culls and turning them out to pasture as a kid.  Tax man was wondering what kind of scheme we had going on and the neighbors drove by every day trying to figure out what in the world we were doing.

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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 08:48:28 PM »
I used a heifer once with good results, but she was a big blue roan from a large framed big milking cow line that had 4 generations in the herd at the time.  The experience with the cow line and her size was the only reason we felt safe.

Heifers are just to unpredictable for me to put valuable embryos in, but if I had a consistently cheap source of nice beef/dairy cross heifers it would be a little different story.

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Re: Heifers for reciepts
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 08:49:45 PM »
We had one of our best cows have a stifle injury in our dry pen 8 months along with a heifer calf so we felt we needed to keep her. Let her calve, took that heifer away and let 3 bull calves work on her for 4 months and these bull calves practically drag on the ground they're so deep  (lol)
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