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cowcrazy

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We have a 6 month old Gus heifer. Three weeks ago I noticed mucus by her tail, but did not think anything about it. Two days ago I, again, noticed mucus and the boys were following her around, jumping her. Today there was blood on her tail. Is it possible that she is having heat cycles at 6 months of age? What is the normal age for a heifer to start cycling?
 

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not out of the question for her to be starting to cycle. is she high % angus? Some angus mature quick.
 

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Very possible. We typically have many of our Galloway heifer calves cycling before weaning.  Have had a few calve at 14 months, if we didn't get bull pulled.
 

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No angus in her. She is a register shorthorn. Thanks for the info!
 

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Are you saying to use lutalyse in the event that she did get bred? The boys could not get the job done.....
 

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cowcrazy said:
Are you saying to use lutalyse in the event that she did get bred? The boys could not get the job done.....

You could be surprised.  I would Lute just to make sure.
 

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HAB said:
cowcrazy said:
Are you saying to use lutalyse in the event that she did get bred? The boys could not get the job done.....

You could be surprised.  I would Lute just to make sure.

The boys CAN get the job done. Better had 10cc dexamethasone to that concoction.  I know 5cc lute alone wasn't always effective at the frat house.
 

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Everything I have read is that for heifers to start cycling is based off weight not age. I have had heifers not start cycling till they were close to 10 months old and some as early as 6 months (those were usually my market heifers) which gain weight quicker from the grain. I don't like to grain feed my replacement heifers as 1st place heifers deposit fat is in the udder and pelvic region as if clubby heifers already don't have a hard enough time calving and milking. So my replacement heifers don't get nothing but hay/grass and protein/vitamin supplements such as licks and cow/range cake. I do have 1 late heifer that was not born until late June last year and is smaller of course than my other replacement heifers I have set to breed this spring. I am hoping she starts cycling before my spring breeding, if not I hope the estrus synchronization kicks her into cycling, which I have heard it does on some heifers and not on others so it is not a fix all solution. What are your guys/gals experience with heifers that are not cycling by time the breeding season comes around? She is my only heifer I have to worry about because of her age she is smaller but I don't want to put her on any grain, I do give her a little extra cow/range cake to try and get her to gain more weight quickly in an attempt to get her to start cycling naturally. I breed in mid May and hope she starts to cycle before then as I still want a calf out of her next spring.
 

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Unless I have some REALLY fertile calves, I am not worried about the boys. I only have two, and one if four months old the other is 2 months. I have had them on hay and grain because we live in Texas, and due to the drought, have not had any grazing.
 

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We have had many situations when the heifers and even bulls matured early. I sold a 7-8 month old Char cross heifer that was about 4 months pregnant. Cattle are surprising and they will find a way..
 

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Chandler said:
HAB said:
cowcrazy said:
Are you saying to use lutalyse in the event that she did get bred? The boys could not get the job done.....

You could be surprised.  I would Lute just to make sure.

The boys CAN get the job done. Better had 10cc dexamethasone to that concoction.  I know 5cc lute alone wasn't always effective at the frat house.

been there done that.. the lut/ dex combo.. still might not work all the time 100% either... I have found.
 

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been there done that.. the lut/ dex combo.. still might not work all the time 100% either... I have found.
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True that!! lut is not 100% by any means. Estrumate seems to work better but prob still isnt 100%
 

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This is very possible especially in British heifers. Shorthorns are  one of the earliest breeds to reach puberty. I remember reading a study done by U of Montana a few years ago, and it reported on average Shorthorn X heifers reached puberty about 2 weeks before Angus,  3-4 weeks before Hereford, and about 6 weeks before Continental breeds. As I mentioned, this was a few years ago, and I do not know if it hold true for more recent genetics in each breed. I know of many breeders in these parts who sort their cows with bull calves to one pasture, and those with heifer calves to another pasture when the calves are about 5 months old.  Over the past number of years I have seen several heifers cycle before weaning. I had one calve at 13.5 months a few years ago, and she calved on her own. By the time, I saw she was starting to make some udder, she was too far along to abort so I worried about her for a few months. She had a bull calf and did a great job of raising him and he sold for $3500 to a breeder in Eastern Canada.

Jim Leachman from Leachman Cattle Co used to say that if he could only select replacements by using one trait, he would select them all by their age at puberty.
 

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cowcrazy said:
Unless I have some REALLY fertile calves, I am not worried about the boys. I only have two, and one if four months old the other is 2 months. I have had them on hay and grain because we live in Texas, and due to the drought, have not had any grazing.
old enough im pretty sure one of the heifers at the neighbors got bred at like 3 months old and had a 40 lb calf at 1year old
 

cowcrazy

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But is it possible for a 4 month old bull calf to breed? You would think he is shooting blanks, if anything at all, at that age!
 

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We have had young bulls that somehow escaped the knife on working day (due to age or some other factor) in the same group as young heifers that are about 6 months or younger. There have been years when heifers end up bred with no bull exposure. These young bulls are 6 months and most likely younger if they were not castrated with the herd because they were too young. Cattle will find a way..just like our 2,000lb herd sire and our 6 month and younger heifers in our other group...
 
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