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Offline LoVeShOrThOrNs

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At my county fair this year (the heifer show), the judge told me when I talked to him after the show that he did not place my heifer higher, because he did not like the SHORTHORN breed! I was pretty peeved at this comment as I believe at a COUNTY FAIR you need to judge by the quality of the heifer, NOT the breed! Please tell me what you think....

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 10:43:13 PM »
Actually the heifers should be evaluated according to their breed standard. When you have selected what represents the best of each breed then you look for what female most represents an ideal female. No matter what breed and ideal female should look the same. I know this sounds crazy.
It was an unfair statement for the person to make. Doesn't sound like he had much professionalism at all.
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 10:52:34 PM »
I understand you need to judge by the breed standard, but when it comes down to an Angus heifer that has very poor structure and was extremely coarse fronted, and a shorthorn heifer, whom obviously is not perfect but can at least walk and is smooth fronted with a terrific profile. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me....I may sound like I am being a selfish, but I have shown cattle for 8 years now and I have NEVER seen a show judged so poorly in all of my showing years. And I've shown all over the country at many, many shows.

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 10:54:08 PM »
post a picture of your heifer and well let you know if he placed her right. if the judge actually said he doesnt like the shorthorn breed, then i wouldnt put to much weight on his opinion. most county shows are what i call "bush league" and usually get that good of judges any how. at least the ones who bring out some ag teacher who took 6 hours of animal science in jr. college.
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 10:59:11 PM »
I don't currently have a picture of her, but if it helps any, her mom won the Colorado State Fair Shorthorn show one year and came back the next and won reserve shorthorn heifer as a cow/calf pair, she also won many jackpot shows around the state, and also won county fair 2 years in a row (same years as state fair). And the sire, is SS Deadwood, not sure if you are famaliar with him or not??

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 11:03:59 PM »
was her mom solid white
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 11:06:51 PM »
Yessir she was/is

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 11:16:11 PM »
Her mom is out of High Roller and I don't remember from the top of my head who HER mother is out of.

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 02:18:02 AM »
i for some reason have a vivid mental image of that cow. Sometimes they just get stuck in my head and are there to stay. well i hope you heifer does as well as her moma, good luck with those crazy judges.
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 08:42:19 AM »
Basically this is the"joy" of a county show.  We have all been there.  There are more stories of good ones getting rolled at county shows than we could count.  That is why I we always go to a number of shows during the season.  Sometimes you are the choice and many times you are not.  Best not to put one's hope all in one show....

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 09:33:05 AM »
That says it all. A judge who admits not liking a specific breed is not really a judge of beef cattle. Period.

Wrong  show. Bad judge. Next show.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2010, 09:34:30 AM by Telos »
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 10:12:09 AM »
  I agree in most part to all of the discussions above, but on the other hand, when I am asked to evaluate cattle or a calf for someone, it seems that most PPL have a hard time being real about their cattle. I can always find something that I would change about an animal. The judge should not have said what he did about not liking SH's in general, rather he should spoke directly about your individual. What were his comments about her in the class placings? We have in the past had the same judge place a cow/calf pair GC overall and the next year placed the cow and her next calf dead last in class saying that the input would be too high. That's good old county fair fun. There are many great cows themselves as far as show careers go, that never produce even a good one. Not saying that your's wasn't a good one. JMO.

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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2010, 04:19:25 PM »
If a judge is going to judge a fair, he needs to know the good qualites between each breed and which calf resembles the best traits of that breed. I don't blame ya for being upset i would be very upset to, i can't believe a judge would do that.
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2010, 04:42:16 PM »
The best way to get a good one beat is taking it to the county fair. We've had heifers get 3rd or 4th at county and win their class at state. It sucks, but it happens.
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Re: Judging a County Fair Heifer Show off BREED...fair, or not????
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2010, 06:04:24 PM »
I know you were ready to smack him on the head with your showstick.  ;D But we've all been there. You just have to be a good sport about it, rant and rave to yourself for a few days, and then let it go. There are some really interesting individuals out there and as many have stated, the best place to find them is at a county show. Just keep up your confidence and work hard for the next shows. If your heifer is really good, she will have her day at a much bigger and more widely known event.
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