marketing calves out of our home-raised bull

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shortyjock89

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I forgot to give ages on the calves...how silly of me!  The steer is a late March.  The red heifer is a Mid April, and the Roan heifer is a Mid  May.  The bull is going to be 3 in September...Just so everyone knows, he is for sale. haha
 

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shortyjock89 said:
knabe said:
i like the red heifer, is that her daddy?

Yes sir it is.  We like her too lol.

He did a nice job for you and ain't too bad himself (despite the photographer cutting off his nose!) Nice calves, I like the red heifer too.
(cow)
 

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dragon lady said:
shortyjock89 said:
knabe said:
i like the red heifer, is that her daddy?

Yes sir it is.  We like her too lol.

He did a nice job for you and ain't too bad himself (despite the photographer cutting off his nose!) Nice calves, I like the red heifer too.
(cow)

Thanks, His nose got cut off because he thought I was feeding the cows in the pen next to him (where I was) an he had his nose through the wooden fence by the barn.  I'm not as big as he is, and when he thinks food is involved, he gets a little excited  (lol)
 

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Nothing wrong with the bull, at all. He's masculine, slick-haired, and dark red. looks purty big-footed, too. Too far away for me, though. Good luck!
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garybob said:
Nothing wrong with the bull, at all. He's masculine, slick-haired, and dark red. looks purty big-footed, too. Too far away for me, though. Good luck!
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Hey thanks, I just wanted to give you all an idea of what he kind of looks like. He's no grand champ, but I kind of like him.  He's alot more solid that alot of those A.I. sires, I think anyhow.
 

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He has had a couple of Shorthorn bulls and usually has some for sale on his web site, I am suprised he wasn't already a member.
 

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Jill said:
He has had a couple of Shorthorn bulls and usually has some for sale on his web site, I am suprised he wasn't already a member.

Well, I feel honored to have such an esteemed breeder join our association (ASA) he can only be a blessing.
 

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shortyjock89 said:





I like that roan heifer and the steer. I LOVE shorties
 

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ELBEE said:
Waukaru is synonymous with large framed cattle! Understand I have nothing against Jordans, and I haven't seen the calves. But herd prefixes get stereotyped, we have the same problem with ELBEE being associated with "dinks". Let the calves speak for themselves the good "eyes" will pick the good cattle.

Lee, Lets get the terminology right here Waukaru has "performance oriented" cattle while the ELBEE cattle are more "functional in their design." The right adjectives are crucial to promoting cattle. It is better to be stereotyped then to never be heard of at all. Also stereotypes change, when we first started raising shorthorns every one told us that Gizmo was a clubby bull. I saw Robert's Gizzy donor and thought she was the clubbiest female I had ever seen and I didn't want our females to look like that. A few years go by and I start seeing all these good functional Gizmo daughters and I'm kicking myself for not using him.

DL, Fred's had a few shorties for along time. The ones I've seen promoted usually had clubby breeding. As far as him getting serious about it why not Sullivan's already turned the breed upside down let's get more people to the party.

Finally back to the original post. My feeling is that good calves will sell themselves and those look like good calves. The bull has a marketable pedigree, I wouldn't worry at all about selling the calves.


 

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itk said:
Let's say that both types of Shorthorns, when used properly, can contribute a lot of good things to a herd. So long as you don't get too extreme in any one direction.
ELBEE said:
Waukaru is synonymous with large framed cattle! Understand I have nothing against Jordans, and I haven't seen the calves. But herd prefixes get stereotyped, we have the same problem with ELBEE being associated with "dinks". Let the calves speak for themselves the good "eyes" will pick the good cattle.

Lee, Lets get the terminology right here Waukaru has "performance oriented" cattle while the ELBEE cattle are more "functional in their design." The right adjectives are crucial to promoting cattle. It is better to be stereotyped then to never be heard of at all. Also stereotypes change, when we first started raising shorthorns every one told us that Gizmo was a clubby bull. I saw Robert's Gizzy donor and thought she was the clubbiest female I had ever seen and I didn't want our females to look like that. A few years go by and I start seeing all these good functional Gizmo daughters and I'm kicking myself for not using him.

DL, Fred's had a few shorties for along time. The ones I've seen promoted usually had clubby breeding. As far as him getting serious about it why not Sullivan's already turned the breed upside down let's get more people to the party.

Finally back to the original post. My feeling is that good calves will sell themselves and those look like good calves. The bull has a marketable pedigree, I wouldn't worry at all about selling the calves.
 

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garybob-that's exactly what I was thinking.  We have a few "clubby", a few "performance", and a few in-between.  I think it gives our herd a nice balance and we usually have a calf that could fit the bill in any type of operation.
 

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shortyjock89 said:
garybob-that's exactly what I was thinking.  We have a few "clubby", a few "performance", and a few in-between.  I think it gives our herd a nice balance and we usually have a calf that could fit the bill in any type of operation.
Yes, I equate this to mixing an Angus to a Gelbvieh, or a Red Angus to a Fleckvieh. Same deal, here. Good luck in whatever you do, cattle or otherwise. Have you tried the Durham Red thing yet?
 

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garybob said:
shortyjock89 said:
garybob-that's exactly what I was thinking.  We have a few "clubby", a few "performance", and a few in-between.  I think it gives our herd a nice balance and we usually have a calf that could fit the bill in any type of operation.
Yes, I equate this to mixing an Angus to a Gelbvieh, or a Red Angus to a Fleckvieh. Same deal, here. Good luck in whatever you do, cattle or otherwise. Have you tried the Durham Red thing yet?

Haven't tried the Durham Red thing-yet.  My dad really likes the idea of breeding a couple of his cows to a RA bull.  Our friends bought one at a sale this spring that I helped them pick out. I think he is seriously considering using him. I like the Purebred Shorthorns or the Shorthorn/Maine thing. 
 
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