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Re: marketing calves out of our home-raised bull
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2007, 02:26:42 PM »
Let's say that both types of Shorthorns, when used properly, can contribute a lot of good things to a herd. So long as you don't get too extreme in any one direction.
Waukaru is synonymous with large framed cattle! Understand I have nothing against Jordans, and I haven't seen the calves. But herd prefixes get stereotyped, we have the same problem with ELBEE being associated with "dinks". Let the calves speak for themselves the good "eyes" will pick the good cattle.

Lee, Lets get the terminology right here Waukaru has "performance oriented" cattle while the ELBEE cattle are more "functional in their design." The right adjectives are crucial to promoting cattle. It is better to be stereotyped then to never be heard of at all. Also stereotypes change, when we first started raising shorthorns every one told us that Gizmo was a clubby bull. I saw Robert's Gizzy donor and thought she was the clubbiest female I had ever seen and I didn't want our females to look like that. A few years go by and I start seeing all these good functional Gizmo daughters and I'm kicking myself for not using him.

DL, Fred's had a few shorties for along time. The ones I've seen promoted usually had clubby breeding. As far as him getting serious about it why not Sullivan's already turned the breed upside down let's get more people to the party.

Finally back to the original post. My feeling is that good calves will sell themselves and those look like good calves. The bull has a marketable pedigree, I wouldn't worry at all about selling the calves.




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Re: marketing calves out of our home-raised bull
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2007, 02:45:55 PM »
garybob-that's exactly what I was thinking.  We have a few "clubby", a few "performance", and a few in-between.  I think it gives our herd a nice balance and we usually have a calf that could fit the bill in any type of operation.
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Re: marketing calves out of our home-raised bull
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2007, 02:08:49 PM »
garybob-that's exactly what I was thinking.  We have a few "clubby", a few "performance", and a few in-between.  I think it gives our herd a nice balance and we usually have a calf that could fit the bill in any type of operation.
Yes, I equate this to mixing an Angus to a Gelbvieh, or a Red Angus to a Fleckvieh. Same deal, here. Good luck in whatever you do, cattle or otherwise. Have you tried the Durham Red thing yet?

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Re: marketing calves out of our home-raised bull
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2007, 02:29:12 PM »
garybob-that's exactly what I was thinking.  We have a few "clubby", a few "performance", and a few in-between.  I think it gives our herd a nice balance and we usually have a calf that could fit the bill in any type of operation.
Yes, I equate this to mixing an Angus to a Gelbvieh, or a Red Angus to a Fleckvieh. Same deal, here. Good luck in whatever you do, cattle or otherwise. Have you tried the Durham Red thing yet?

Haven't tried the Durham Red thing-yet.  My dad really likes the idea of breeding a couple of his cows to a RA bull.  Our friends bought one at a sale this spring that I helped them pick out. I think he is seriously considering using him. I like the Purebred Shorthorns or the Shorthorn/Maine thing. 
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Re: marketing calves out of our home-raised bull
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2007, 02:30:17 PM »
talk to Oh b, he's looked into the Red Angus pretty closely.

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