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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1155 on: December 27, 2015, 03:34:41 PM »
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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1156 on: December 28, 2015, 05:20:06 PM »
Roan one is an argentinian bull called Leave Trasumante 168. Imported to Brazil at 14 months age. Sired by RPS Tribune 82 on a half Lincoln Red blood.
The second one is JASF Specialist 1G, which semen was sold in Brazil around 15 years ago. Specialist is canadian bull.

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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1157 on: December 28, 2015, 05:46:43 PM »
I'd prolly be too impatient to wait around for them to mature but I bet when they do, Specialist daughters make some pretty nice cows.

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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1158 on: December 28, 2015, 08:22:27 PM »
I'd prolly be too impatient to wait around for them to mature but I bet when they do, Specialist daughters make some pretty nice cows.

Had until some years ago some Trasumante daughters, not so huge as you think. Good cows, deep and long. Have some Trasumante semen yet on stock.

Not yet used Specialist, bought few straws as not liked her type. Soon will use them to see what happens.

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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1159 on: July 06, 2016, 07:07:03 AM »
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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1160 on: July 07, 2016, 08:11:08 AM »
Says GRAND CHAMPION SHORTHORN BULL REGINA 1969 SPOTLIGHT SHOW.
I didn't know they wore hats like that in 1969!
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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1161 on: June 22, 2017, 07:43:46 PM »
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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1162 on: June 22, 2017, 08:52:59 PM »
Duke of Swisher?

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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1163 on: June 23, 2017, 08:19:40 AM »
Duke of Swisher?

I would agree that this is Duke of Swisher.
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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1164 on: June 23, 2017, 09:09:58 AM »
Certainly is Duke of Swisher, sire of AF Shannon Margie 924, one of the most influential cows in the history of the Shorthorn breed.  He was a straight dual purpose bull, sired by Foxdale Favorite Robin and bred by the Jones Family of Washington, Iowa.  K & K Shorthorns bought some cows that originated at the Jones farm and showed several of the resulting offspring the next year.  Alden Farms later purchased him, I believe in Denver.  As a yearling he was Grand Champion bull at the Illinois State Fair and I believe reserve junior champion bull to Hilltop Lancer 457 at the Iowa State Fair.  I had purchased a half brother to Duke, Justamere Todd, from the Jones Family earlier in 1975 that ended up as Grand Champion bull at both the Iowa and Minnesota State Fairs.  I traveled on the show road with the Lamparek Brothers (K & K Shorthorns) that fall and winter so I saw plenty of the Duke. 

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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1165 on: June 23, 2017, 09:52:58 AM »
I always wonder what these animals would look like if they were raised in today's systems.

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Re: NAME THE BULL!
« Reply #1166 on: June 23, 2017, 02:43:33 PM »
Duke of Swisher looks like a pretty useful bull to me and his TYPE would certainly improve and provide the angularity that many of the modern SH cattle need.

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« Reply #1167 on: June 26, 2017, 09:47:51 AM »
That line, and several others, of straight dual purpose breeding were VERY useful.  Not all the duals looked like Holsteins.  Many dual purpose breeders of that era really had their act together.  Some still do.

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« Reply #1168 on: June 26, 2017, 12:12:11 PM »
Anybody remember Deertrail Goliath, Deertrail Dynamite 80, Wallstreet , or any of their really good Mark 4 x Hilltop Lancer (Sulleir  x Shorthorn xs)) breeding. The Marvel dual cows were very big and stout-and when crossed with Irish (Guiness and Dividend) and Maine,(Dollar the 2nd, Covino 2 and ???) produced some pretty useful cattle.Deertrail Buckshot introduced ALOT of the above  <alien> into Canada at Shadybrooke-his dam was a beautiful BIG RED cow who lived till she was something like 16-or 17. O0
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Re: NAME THE BULL!
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