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the angus111

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College Football,which I love is no better than prostitution,the pimps are the coaches and the NCAA.AND THE PLAYERS ARE THE MONEY MAKERS.Lane Kiffin abandoned a program after 1 year,promising recruits in Tennessee that he would be there,just leaving at a moments notice. Carroll leaves USC ,WHAT ABOUT THE PLAYERS THAT CAME THERE JUST BECAUSE OF HIM.SIT ONE YEAR OUT AND TRANSFER OR PLAY DIVISION11.NOT FAIR AT ALL.NCAA NEEDS TO TAKE CHARGE OF THIS AND FOR ONCE DO WHAT IS RIGHT.DONT BE SURPRISED TO SEE TURBEVILLE LEAVE TECH TO GET BACK IN THE SEC.RUSTY
 

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If Tuberville doesn't keep that same wide open offens, look for tech fans to help him pack!! Texas Tech eliminated their whole identity when they fired Leach. In 2008, I went to Lubbock to watch my team play them. You wouldn't believe how many people dressed up like pirates there. They loved him then, and still do now.
 

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No offense but that's the nature of the business.  People jump ships in any job all the time.  Yes it sucks but that is life.  If your Dream Job opened and was offered to you, wouldn't you take that opportunity?                                                               
 

the angus111

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stihlpro, I understand that,but dont contracts mean anything.Also in the business world, when you go to get a job and they see your at each job for a year,doesnt that send a red flag.Finally, what about the kids?is it right for a coach to promise kids things and have the kids commit to him ,then he bails.not fair,not fair at all.if the coach bails ,the kids should be able to,without sitting out a year!Rusty
 

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Angus 1 1 1, That last statement says it all, the kids get the short end of the stick on that one, as well as when a coach or AD let things happen and after the player that cheated the system has moved on to the pros. The program gets sanctioned, the coach leaves and kids are stuck, no bowl games less scholarships the whole gamete, (a situation the Kippen is moving  himself into). Cant blame it all on the coaches, they can be fired in the same way and the athletes are the onlyones who suffer. Bottom line it is all about the money in NCAA football, if it wasn't they would not penalize the teams for things that a player did 4 years ago. I think it is the coaches and AD's whoshould be suspended if they allowed NCAA violations to occur, not some kid who was a highschool freshmen when it all happened.

Let them switch schools if the situation has changed from when they started colledge.
 

forcheyhawk

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I think Carroll left because the NCAA is sniffing around his program and probably rightfully so.
 

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The NCAA is the crooked organization.  That's the problem.  An athlete in a sport like football or basketball can't even have a normal job like regular students because of the rules plus the time commitments.  They still have other bills the scholarships don't cover.

I don't remotely understand how contracts have got the way they are for coaches.  When the schools fire them, they still get paid.  But, its the school's fault for signing them.  They control the money.

 

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quick story.my buddy coached Wichita State softball, had Colby County come down,they being on a limited budget could not afford housing,WSU ASKED US THE BOOSTERS TO PUT GIRLS UP,WE DID.WSU got into trouble because they were violating rules, as far as recruiting the girls.You cant do anything good without violating stupid rules. rusty
 

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I thought it was a weasel move, especially with him trying to steal recruits and telling them not to attend classes next day so they were still available.  Not to mention, all the crap he pulled when he first got there with Urban and some of the violations he had.

USC is going down anyway. 
 

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the angus111 said:
stihlpro, I understand that,but dont contracts mean anything.Also in the business world, when you go to get a job and they see your at each job for a year,doesnt that send a red flag.Finally, what about the kids?is it right for a coach to promise kids things and have the kids commit to him ,then he bails.not fair,not fair at all.if the coach bails ,the kids should be able to,without sitting out a year!Rusty

To be honest with you I kind of agree with you.  Being an Alumni and Fan of a school who coaches use as a "Stepping Stone", I have gotten used to being dissappointed.  Maybe misery loves company.  Who knows, three years down the road, this MAY be a blessing in disguise.  UT may go and hire the greatest and most successful coach they have ever seen. 
 

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chambero said:
The NCAA is the crooked organization.  That's the problem.  An athlete in a sport like football or basketball can't even have a normal job like regular students because of the rules plus the time commitments.  They still have other bills the scholarships don't cover.

I don't remotely understand how contracts have got the way they are for coaches.  When the schools fire them, they still get paid.  But, its the school's fault for signing them.  They control the money.

I won't stand up for the NCAA, but I think in this case they are probably long overdue in sniffing around USC.  There's been enough evidence of boosters giving athletes money at that school to warrant an investigation.  The part that I don't like is that Petey Carroll ought to have to answer to any violations that may have occurred on his watch.  Likely with him bailing before any sanctions are imposed (if there are any), he will not have to answer for this.  The real question then becomes are the boosters pockets deep enough to keep any sanctions from being imposed.  ;D
 

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forcheyhawk said:
chambero said:
The NCAA is the crooked organization.  That's the problem.  An athlete in a sport like football or basketball can't even have a normal job like regular students because of the rules plus the time commitments.  They still have other bills the scholarships don't cover.

I don't remotely understand how contracts have got the way they are for coaches.  When the schools fire them, they still get paid.  But, its the school's fault for signing them.  They control the money.

I won't stand up for the NCAA, but I think in this case they are probably long overdue in sniffing around USC.  There's been enough evidence of boosters giving athletes money at that school to warrant an investigation.  The part that I don't like is that Petey Carroll ought to have to answer to any violations that may have occurred on his watch.  Likely with him bailing before any sanctions are imposed (if there are any), he will not have to answer for this.  The real question then becomes are the boosters pockets deep enough to keep any sanctions from being imposed.   ;D


Look at Calipari, Memphis lost all their 2008 wins and he went to another school scot free.  Thanks goodness KU won the championship game and they don't have to erase that win.  Also did the same thing at UMass.
 

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As suggested above, my opinion is that Carroll saw what was coming down the pipe.  The NCAA must have all kinds of stuff on USC...look at all the negative stuff publicized.  How can they not hammer then on this stuff?

Why would Kiffin want to go into that situation?  Maybe because he had the same things going at Tennessee? 

USC.....Ultimate School of Cheaters.  Hope they go down!
 

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A coach should have to return all the money an institution paid him if they get NCAA sanctions.  I just don't think that it's right that a coach can bail and do the same things at the next school he's at.  There should be some responsibility given to the coach if he knew what was going on.
 
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