new bulls for 2012

im looking for new genetics and a bull that will make some good heifers- that can actualy walk.... i was told to use silent knight which is calveing ease and th-pha free, silent knight is a predator X phaleface\cheaptrick.... just wanted to see what everyone thought of silent kinght!?

sounds to me like you should look into using a good ole ANGUS bull

We had a bull named Daddy of 'Em All in Denver.  He is PHA and TH free, very sound and huge bodied.  Also not the typical club calf genetics. He is a Redemption (Dirty Harry) out of a Dr Who cow.  We started shipping semen out last week - M Lazy Heart Ranch - if ? call me 307-575-0590

I will have to second what feed grass said. You never know about soundness and so called "calving ease" in clubbies.

adam o said:

im looking for new genetics and a bull that will make some good heifers- that can actualy walk.... i was told to use silent knight which is calveing ease and th-pha free, silent knight is a predator X phaleface\cheaptrick.... just wanted to see what everyone thought of silent kinght!?

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What is your female base? Without knowing that.... I am not sure how anyone can make recommendations.

cownerd said:

I will have to second what feed grass said. You never know about soundness and so called "calving ease" in clubbies.

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gotta say i've seen way to many unsound angus in the show ring.  when i walked into a class i thought they were pb maines they were so bad.

knabe said:

cownerd said:

I will have to second what feed grass said. You never know about soundness and so called "calving ease" in clubbies.

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gotta say i've seen way to many unsound angus in the show ring.  when i walked into a class i thought they were pb maines they were so bad.

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i have seen to many unsound "purebreds" of any breed maines and angus especialy for beeing a breed of "maternal" qualities

there are easier ways to promote the bull if this is who i think it is... but the bull looks like a good one but to me his only mark would be to make females doesnt have to look and style that really tips me off thinking silent knight will be a steer maker. Calving ease for great females will have to be the purebred angus and sticking with the genetics that have worked for way to many years with the OCC and Duff bulls. Legend and many other OCC angus bulls make great cows and are sure fire calving ease and will give you a little more predictability to your cows using a purebred sire.

adam o said:

that can actualy walk.... calveing ease and th-pha free,

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need to breed to a jersey, most cattle on this forum dont fit that bill very well  (lol) no i agree with what DCC show cattle said about the angus bulls being the way to go for something that will go in a show ring

use the angus bulls on the heifers to raise females to raise calves this industry is a multiple generation business. None of the guys that are successful with their cow herds popped up overnight.

REAL DEAL
Full Brother to Whiplash. He is sound and productive. His full sisters and half sisters are the same way. We have a handful of calves that are very exciting, They have added look, hair and stoutness. Check out our website www.whiteroostercattle.com for more info.

I have to agree with DCC...I didnt comment the first time I saw this post because I was kinda thinking it was the same person trying to promote this bull.  I also agree that I like him for a cow maker, but that is about it.  From my experience and cattle that I know with those geneteics, I always thought they were far better in the pasture than they ever were in the show ring.  As far as evaluating the bull himself, I think there is some product there, though he wont blow you away with his power.  But what I like most about him is he looks to be sound, big middled, lots of spring of rib and depth, and is just basicly really soggy made which I really like in my females. And I like that he is clean, but beyond that I dont foresee him siring a lot of calves that take off in the show ring, he just doesnt have the right design and lacks the pizazz the showring looks for.  On that same note, I could easily see this bull being the grandsire of some great ones down the road if used right and the heifers are used right.

White Rooster said:

REAL DEAL
Full Brother to Whiplash. He is sound and productive. His full sisters and half sisters are the same way. We have a handful of calves that are very exciting, They have added look, hair and stoutness. Check out our website www.whiteroostercattle.com for more info.

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all of the bulls white rooster has are the real deal (get it lol) they did a wonderfull job raising real deal and tool both full sibs to whiplash i like the looks of tool more in his pic but he is older to good luck with your choice