New Calving ease bull

TMJ Show Cattle · May 27, 2009

I would like to suggest anyone wanting to use a calving ease bull to give Calf a Bull a serious consideration. He is a Dirty Harry son out of a Bachelor cow. He had a 72 lb. birthweight and no matter what his mom has been bred to she has always had calves that weigh less than 85 lbs.[including HW] This bull will match ANY of the club calf bulls being promoted,on the wash rack,where in my opinion alot of bulls should have to pass this test. He passes with flying colors. He has way better than average bone,muscle out the wazoo,and hair to die for. He is owned by ADAM WHITE CATTLE CO. of Lancaster, Wisconsin. He is TH and PHA free and deserves serious consideration..... THANKS.

The Driver · May 27, 2009

I am curious when dirty harry isn't old enough to be proven calving ease so this bull can't have enough calves on the ground to be toted as such. will definetely give him a look but would advise all to be careful untill calving ease is proven

The Driver · May 27, 2009

Sorry I miss spoke DH is an 05 but how many calf crops does this bull have on the ground?

herefordfootball · May 27, 2009

Pretty sure Calvabull doesnt have any calves on the ground, but just going off what I know. I dont think I would break the rules on breeding first calf heifers(using an unproven bull). But JMO.

farmboy · May 27, 2009

he is a new bull, no calves. i remember his picture from last summer as a calf

TMJ Show Cattle · May 28, 2009

I want to know whose rule are you talking about? Some of you guys get on here with some kind of holier than thou attitude. The term calving ease bull is just that,a term. I KNOW THIS MAY BE OUT OF YOUR REALM OF COMPREHENSION but,i know the mother of calf abull quite well and I know how her calves weighed over the years. In fact she was a light calf when she was born herself. Most of you guys look at to many pictures,and if the name don't suit you or somebody broke one of your rules then you start freaking out. Let me ask you this question about your so called rule: If you raised abull knowing in your heart ,that he can be bred to heifers and he throws a 90lb.calf one time for any reason,do you discard that bull even though the other calves were lower birth? Some of you cats take your educated guesses to such extremities that some of us old guys that have been doing this for longer than you have been alive,well we laugh and slap our knee. You read to many books.

Show Steaks · May 28, 2009

Do you have a picture if i remeber right he was a littel straight in his rear wheels...... he did loook liek ahiar ball though O0

inthebarnagain · May 28, 2009

TMJ Show Cattle said:
I want to know whose rule are you talking about? Some of you guys get on here with some kind of holier than thou attitude. The term calving ease bull is just that,a term. I KNOW THIS MAY BE OUT OF YOUR REALM OF COMPREHENSION but,i know the mother of calf abull quite well and I know how her calves weighed over the years. In fact she was a light calf when she was born herself. Most of you guys look at to many pictures,and if the name don't suit you or somebody broke one of your rules then you start freaking out. Let me ask you this question about your so called rule: If you raised abull knowing in your heart ,that he can be bred to heifers and he throws a 90lb.calf one time for any reason,do you discard that bull even though the other calves were lower birth? Some of you cats take your educated guesses to such extremities that some of us old guys that have been doing this for longer than you have been alive,well we laugh and slap our knee. You read to many books.

GREAT way to get people to try the bull, insult them! (clapping) (clapping) Try hard enough and maybe you can turn this site into warfare like most of the other livestock sites.

The Driver · May 28, 2009

its not rules or some book I personally like to know that a bull has actually had some smaller BW calves before i use him on heifers. Now a good bull is a good bull but I have a small herd and am not trying to hurt any of my heifers. there is enough calvind ease bulls that are proven out there that I'm not gonna experiment till calving ease has been proven but thats just me. Not trying to hurt anyones feelings. we might take a look at using him on some of our older cows then see what we get.

olsun · May 28, 2009

Over the years, I have made more mistakes calving heifers than I can count. The only way to be at least a little bit safe on calving ease is to use a proven bull. Even then there is no guarantee. My best advise is to let someone else get the proof, and you yourself use only the proven. I know how hard that is because I have been fooled, but proven bulls are the best way to go. JMO

herefordfootball · May 28, 2009

TMJ Show Cattle said:
I want to know whose rule are you talking about? Some of you guys get on here with some kind of holier than thou attitude. The term calving ease bull is just that,a term. I KNOW THIS MAY BE OUT OF YOUR REALM OF COMPREHENSION but,i know the mother of calf abull quite well and I know how her calves weighed over the years. In fact she was a light calf when she was born herself. Most of you guys look at to many pictures,and if the name don't suit you or somebody broke one of your rules then you start freaking out. Let me ask you this question about your so called rule: If you raised abull knowing in your heart ,that he can be bred to heifers and he throws a 90lb.calf one time for any reason,do you discard that bull even though the other calves were lower birth? Some of you cats take your educated guesses to such extremities that some of us old guys that have been doing this for longer than you have been alive,well we laugh and slap our knee. You read to many books.

Like I said Just My Opinion. And no its not a rule set in stone its just common sense.

herefordfootball · May 28, 2009

TMJ Show Cattle said:
I want to know whose rule are you talking about? Some of you guys get on here with some kind of holier than thou attitude. The term calving ease bull is just that,a term. I KNOW THIS MAY BE OUT OF YOUR REALM OF COMPREHENSION but,i know the mother of calf abull quite well and I know how her calves weighed over the years. In fact she was a light calf when she was born herself. Most of you guys look at to many pictures,and if the name don't suit you or somebody broke one of your rules then you start freaking out. Let me ask you this question about your so called rule: If you raised abull knowing in your heart ,that he can be bred to heifers and he throws a 90lb.calf one time for any reason,do you discard that bull even though the other calves were lower birth? Some of you cats take your educated guesses to such extremities that some of us old guys that have been doing this for longer than you have been alive,well we laugh and slap our knee. You read to many books.

Oh and no its not out of my realm of comprehension. Also great way to get people to use a new bull insult their opinions about the bull when they really didnt say anything bad about it. I have no doubt in my mind that he might be the next big calving ease bull, but until you have guaranteed proof that his calves come easy. Dont know if I'd promo him as a calving ease bull. But again JMO.

vet tech · May 28, 2009

herefordfootball said:
TMJ Show Cattle said:

I want to know whose rule are you talking about? Some of you guys get on here with some kind of holier than thou attitude. The term calving ease bull is just that,a term. I KNOW THIS MAY BE OUT OF YOUR REALM OF COMPREHENSION but,i know the mother of calf abull quite well and I know how her calves weighed over the years. In fact she was a light calf when she was born herself. Most of you guys look at to many pictures,and if the name don't suit you or somebody broke one of your rules then you start freaking out. Let me ask you this question about your so called rule: If you raised abull knowing in your heart ,that he can be bred to heifers and he throws a 90lb.calf one time for any reason,do you discard that bull even though the other calves were lower birth? Some of you cats take your educated guesses to such extremities that some of us old guys that have been doing this for longer than you have been alive,well we laugh and slap our knee. You read to many books.

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Oh and no its not out of my realm of comprehension. Also great way to get people to use a new bull insult their opinions about the bull when they really didnt say anything bad about it. I have no doubt in my mind that he might be the next big calving ease bull, but until you have guaranteed proof that his calves come easy. Dont know if I'd promo him as a calving ease bull. But again JMO.

I agree 100% herefordfootball! (clapping)

simtal · May 28, 2009

The idea of promoting a "calving ease bull" based on his own birthweight is misleading, IMO. Just like promoting a bull as a "carcass sired" based off of a high IMF scan.

cowman · May 28, 2009

I also have a rule of seeing a bull before I use them...just something to ponder here.

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