No Worries, I67, Jesse James on Angus Heifers

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Warrior10

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Not on Angus but I have used No Worries and I-80.

Prefer the No Worries
What type of heifers did you use No Worries on or what did he add? I really like his pedigree, you get the I-80 plus the great Irish Whiskey.
 

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No Worries has been used on clubby crossbred cows around here for first calf heifers. The calves come small, easy, and grow like a weed. They have good hair and bone and have had the most growth out of any other calves here.  Hope this helps.
 

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No Worries has been used on clubby crossbred cows around here for first calf heifers. The calves come small, easy, and grow like a weed. They have good hair and bone and have had the most growth out of any other calves here.  Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info, figured he'd cross great with the clubby females. Have an opportunity to breed some Angus heifers and trying to figure out which bull I like in that cross.
 

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I80 would give you a great, maternal calf, but I feel like the calf would be lacking power and possibly depth.  The calves should be very, very angular though.  Jesse James would be your most terminal cross... What are you looking to achieve?
 

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I80 would give you a great, maternal calf, but I feel like the calf would be lacking power and possibly depth.  The calves should be very, very angular though.  Jesse James would be your most terminal cross... What are you looking to achieve?
We will be breeding enough of them that a variety of terminal calves and replacements could be done.
 

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If you're going that route I would use I 67 and No Worries. Will give you good steers with some mass, (most likely won't compete much though, especially being out of first calf heifers).  No Worries will be the same way but will add a little blaze coloring.

 

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Kind of funny listening to the debate about which one to use.  Seems similar to the I-80 debates of a few years ago and now that he has been bred to the better cows, you see him showing up in a lot of Grand and Reserve spots.  The No Worries calves bred to the really good cows and heifers have been flat awesome and I would expect him to breed much the same as I-80.  Executive Sires has sexed semen for around $120.00 a unit pretty good if you are guaranteed a white marked heifer.  We are using him on a first calf heifer Total Solution/Meyer x Dirty Harry and a good 2nd calf Who Da Man x Kadabra.  Winegardner's had a really good I-80 bull out of a Who Da Man that sold in their Spring Bull sale for just short of $20,000.00 and he was a stud since birth, small, but had great growth.
 

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I would not choose any of these bulls on an Angus heifer unless you  only want one calf from the cow.  Breed your heifer to a calving ease bull and enjoy her later calves.  The heifer has enough to learn without also having to recover from dystocia.
 

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IMO if an angus heifer can't calve calf out of any of these bulls then she isnt worth having in my book. I know I will get blasted for this next comment but I think that because the angus breed has focused so much on calving ease that their pelvis's have also shrunk. Remember pelvis is considered a long bone and when we select for calving ease generation after generation based on EPDs we also shorten the long bones.
 

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Second Shift Cattle said:
I would not choose any of these bulls on an Angus heifer unless you  only want one calf from the cow.  Breed your heifer to a calving ease bull and enjoy her later calves.  The heifer has enough to learn without also having to recover from dystocia.
Thanks for the thoughts but I disagree. Numerous show cattle herds across the nation, mine included, have used and continue to use these calving ease bulls with success. Never have ruined a heifer breeding to a clubby calving ease bull, proper feed management and culling of potential replacement heifers (pelvic measuring, bloodline knowledge, family BW history) goes a long way.
 

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No Worries bull calf at M Lazy Heart Ranch.
 

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No Worries bull at Prince Farms.
 

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BroncoFan said:
IMO if an angus heifer can't calve calf out of any of these bulls then she isnt worth having in my book. I know I will get blasted for this next comment but I think that because the angus breed has focused so much on calving ease that their pelvis's have also shrunk. Remember pelvis is considered a long bone and when we select for calving ease generation after generation based on EPDs we also shorten the long bones. (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) <party> <party> WELL PUT (clapping)
 

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How dare you say that about them?? I thought the angus breed was the do it all, and know-it-all breed????  (lol)
 
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