Our New AI Sire (Brother to Whiplash) ***UPDATE named "REAL DEAL"
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kfacres
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SJ8965 said:
IMO, if I were trying to try and promote a bull... I don't think the first thing out of my mouth would be hair. In JuCo judging, we were taught to state the most important first.. Last time I checked, hair was not exactly the highest priority.
kfacres
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vc said:
No HE asked what makes him better than the other bulll, and if you thought they would breed the same.... First words agalin..
Show Steaks
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Hwe brings up a good point with the hair bing a positive seems long and raight alot of the brothers like back lash have curly hair, something you should put some thought into the truth before you go critcizing.SJ8965 said:
OH Breeder
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the truth said:
Jody it seems your picking scabs. Does it really matter? You will never use this bull. It is geared toward the club calf industry and probably not for your program. So. do you really want to split hairs? Do you breed for bone and hair? I wouldn't think so as you have made it pretty clear your program goals. So, let it go....it just makes you appear bitter and argumentative. I see what the OWNER is saying. One throws hair the other doesn't those are legitimate traits whether you breed for clubbys or not. If you were in a hot climate and did plan on using one or the other you may not want hair. Seriously, just let it go. Clubby show calf people want a bull that throws hair. No there is no hair epd but it is what it is.
firesweepranch
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No there is no hair epd but it is what it is.
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Now THATwould be COOL! A hair EPD... imagine the possibilities ;D
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Now THATwould be COOL! A hair EPD... imagine the possibilities ;D
Woody
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As usuall Im a day late but in your first description u said he is Flawless...... that would have been a good name. Thinkin about the whole linebreeding thing, what would happen if you bred c17 back to a Whiplash son? Just a thought. I do wish he was a year old so I could breed to him this spring. I dont think you will have much problem sellin semen on this guy.
Woody said:
Thanks for the input. I am a big proponent of line breeding. Kind of funny you asked because we have a bull we call School's Out whois a Blazer (Double bred Whiplash) out of C17 (the mother of Whiplash). I LOVE the calves. We are working on getting pictures of him and the calves up at www.whiteroostercattle.com . One of the highlights of his first calf crop is a daughter who's mother is an own Whiplash daughter. So that heifer traces to whiplash 3 times and C17 4 in just a few generations.
CAB
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Might not matter to you, but there are a couple of other bulls named Real Deal. ! is a Maine bull, sire of The Fireman and there is a Red Angus bull named The Real Deal.
rocknmranch
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We have a bull from Skyler, a Blazer bull. We have or first set of clubcalves on the ground. Mostly from charolais cows, a couple maine, angus, and a herford. Love the colors on the calves, some are pretty fancy. Most have decent hair, and definitely move just fine.
check out our facebook page..... rockn m ranch in california. I will try and update the website with some better pictures.
check out our facebook page..... rockn m ranch in california. I will try and update the website with some better pictures.
Woody
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I couldnt take it any longer, I broke down and bought 5 straws of Tool! Its kinda stupid to ask this after I bought the semen but does Tool need to be used on a cow with a little simmi or maine like Mamas Boy does or is he better off on softer made cows?
Woody said:
Tool has worked on different types of cows for us. He works best on high percentage angus cows with a shot of Maine or Simmi. Very consistently throwing white faces, good fronts, bone, and stoutness. The older the Tool calves get the more we like them. We are very excited about the group of daughters on the ground.
