Precisely! I mentioned to Telos that maybe 84E being clean gave us a feel good when really he was clean in the same way Intense Plus was...clean to a dirty flushmate. This is quite the CSI and enough to drive any investigator batty...but I guess that's what it's like when one doesn't have all the clues at hand. Maybe what bothers me the most is knowing that the French Association and breeders have all the pedigrees and maybe ampules that we need to help come to a conclusion.
What I do know is that with our latest insight that 224X(among others) is a reported to be a carrier(since two progeny are carriers and their sires are not) point the fingers at two animals, Bar UJ Allen and Midas. It seems that many have assumed that "the King of Blacks" is assumed to be clean...I guess there's only one way to find out.
I too think we need to look at semen available on bulls tracing to Turquino and Univers. If any of you out there come across old semen, call first to see if the sire has in fact NOT been tested. Obviously, some animals that have been tested are not on the PHA C/F list. For one, these cows...which aren't a real big deal, but sort of, should be on the PHAF list Miss Big Sky 701G, Miss Big Sky 718G and MROA Miss Morris 220M.
