RCR STETSON calving ease simmy ?

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ALTSIMMY 79

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I'm wondering about the Stetson bull that select sires carries as a different calving ease option on some simmy heifers. He appears to be a pretty good bull pedigree, numbers,and looks wise. Maybe not as deep bodied but they say he was worked hard before the photo. Any info would be great ??? Thanks
 

LN

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I haven't used him, but of the outlier calving ease Simmental bulls he would probably be my choice. I bought a couple heifers bred to Dikemans Sure Bet and am not impressed with the calves by him.
 

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We have not used him here but I know he comes from a good program..  You could call Jeff at RCR about him.   
 

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This is just ONE calf, but we had a nightmare with him. Bought a bred heifer (for a recip, an Above Par x KSU Miss Too Black) with decent EPD's for calving ease (IIRC, she was a 7, with a 0 birth weight). Bought her the end of September out of Kansas sale, but did not take possession until at the Royal (seller brought her on his trailer and we just transferred her in the parking lot).  She calved the end of December, on time (two days early) and had a 118 pound bull calf, dead. We had to have the vet out to get the calf out, and she was down for several weeks after the awful ordeal. Out in the middle of the pasture, in the middle of a cold winter, and we had to drive out there twice a day to feed and water her. Thank gosh she pulled out, and slowly regained the ability to walk, and went straight to the market. Good thing is, the breeder replaced her with a fall weanling, so we were not out much (vet bills).
So I am a little gun shy with RCR Stetson. We were just as shocked as the breeder, since he is calving ease and she had no history of calving ease problems in her pedigree. She was not a show heifer, not even halter broke, on Kansas pasture all of her life, and just on baled fescue when we took possession of her. So it was not a feeding issue.
 

ALTSIMMY 79

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Wow firesweep ! I would have never guessed even one report like that out of him being he is sired by shear force. Understand it is just one calf but one is one too many for me. Thanks
 

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Don't know this Stetson bull at all.  But keep in mind...the cow carrying the calf has a direct input in the birthweight of the calf also.  We all tend to point fingers at the bull first (myself included), but I think it's a fact that the cow has more input in determining the birthweight. 

An example...last year, we had a monster E.T. calf out of a very proven calving ease Simmental bull.  The fact that the recip cow kept him in 17 days past due probably had plenty of effect on his birthweight...can't really blame that on the bull.

Just something to keep in mind.
 

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I agree with Husker!    My own personal experience has been a little bit of a calving struggle due to the SHAPE of the calf from Firesweep's cow line - no matter what bull they are bred to.      There are also other factors to consider..  knowing when to intervene can certainly save a lot of lives.  JMO..  of course.. 
 

ALTSIMMY 79

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You guys are correct but firesweep also was very diligent in giving lots of information on the situation so a person has to admit it kinda raises some eyebrows.
 

WKYIronMike

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Our Red Half Blood Dream On Grand Daughter Heifer whom we AIed to Stetson just calved Feb. 6th. She was due on the 7th therefore I had her in the lot to keep an eye on her. Ours usually calve after their due dates therefore I wasn't checking as often as I usually do, plus the weather has been too bad to check on them very often. Anyway went Thursday morning to make my rounds, breaking ice, feeding, and checking on them and the first thing I saw was something bouncing around through the open barn door. Anyway she had calved in the barn and had done ate her afterbirth and had done fed her young heifer calf, a long legged solid black beauty. I would have liked to have weighed it but there is to many other things to do in this crappy weather, like busting ice and more ice  (lol). I'll use Stetson again without a doubt for heifers until something goes bad  (lol). I'll try and find time to post a pic sometimes.   
 

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I've had one Stetson that weighed about 40 pounds and she never caught up with the other calves. I've seen a few yearlings that weren't terrible but more that were just too plain for me. I personally don't want any more of em.
 

WKYIronMike

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Snapped a few pics this morning of our red heifer and her RCR Stetson 6 day old calf. The little heifer is just full of energy up and playing about all the time. Caught her sleeping just 1 time, of all places on top the hay roll. Still don't know how she got up there, she was really enjoying the comfort of it until I ran her off of it.
 

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