I called Raymond Gonnet about Young Money a year or two ago and he was quite helpfull, and basically told me that he was a pretty goodsized bull, based upon his (Raymonds) ht. of 6"1.That's what I was looking for along with the pedigree which I really like. I decided to use him but the IVF didnt work so we are flushing with him soon. Gonnet is now Competitive Edge and they have come up with some interesting cattle, especially the clubbyxCanadian cattle,which I think will fill a gap in terms an alternative little furr ball puds:that would be great if they had some scale and could raise a calf;and still come from stout easy fleshing cattle. O0