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Title: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: sue on July 29, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
I was not able to find photos for every bull collected but if you are serious about making better cattle ! Take a look. Rob is not out of the cattle business just purebred shorthorns. He is on his last round of treatment.  Over 2000 Units of solid red, moderate framed and polled bulls. His old sale catalog is a great reference to most of the genetics. RS 034 was the most promoted but several sons were used and collected.  Complete list posted to my web page, under for sale. All semen stored and ships from Genex, Strafford MO
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: sue on July 30, 2016, 10:21:10 AM
Reg # correction for  RS ST 269 507 00  is  4169021 .  I will try to fix on line as well, thanks for catching that !
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: Duncraggan on July 30, 2016, 10:34:40 AM
That Captain Obvious son that went to the Gert breeder looks interesting!
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: sue on July 31, 2016, 07:17:51 AM
RS Max 907 209 07 is the sire to a walking bull Gilman's own. Nice photo of him on their web page. Studers have a photo of the Captain son RS Captain Rob  which lists as RS CO 627 12.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: sue on August 05, 2016, 07:06:38 AM
I found and posted pasture shots of the two sons of RR Dream Girl 15th aka "804 cow".   She is gone and I see Cates are selling a nice bred daughter of her as lot 43!
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: Dale on August 21, 2016, 01:38:02 PM
We used 034 and probably should use the last 3 straws we have, because his daughter is an excellent cow.  Sullivan Farms have a bull running with heifers, Gilman's Envied, that is by a Sneed 034 son--needless to say, that is a pretty solid bull.  RS cattle do almost anything cattle should do, well.  Most breeders could use some of these genetics, since they are outcross and highly practical.  They are bred to do well in the pasture.

http://www.lakesidecattle.com/rob-sneedsemen.html (http://www.lakesidecattle.com/rob-sneedsemen.html) 
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: mark tenenbaum on August 21, 2016, 04:06:51 PM
Too bad, but some of the better the functional Shorthorns are being crossbred out of the "purebred"existance: such as Lakeside-Sue, Sneed, Bertz,A and T etc.They are finding a larger audience, creating a better beast etc, but the field is narrowing some.as far as where the next functional cattle will come from. There's still: Waukaru, Dale, Gary Kaper, Loving, the Montana Cattle, some of the Canadian Cattle, Byland, some of the other Ohio-Kansas etc. non-show deals etc. But there weren't a large number of these breeders in the 1st place:so the overall field and gene pool-is diminshing. O0
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: E6 Durhams on August 21, 2016, 09:37:47 PM
It's easier to sell crossbreds. The ASA has nothing to offer its members without a fee. Mike Keeney's way of cattle breeding looks better each day. We need a new association. I've said it for years. I'm not paying into something that only benefits me with a sheet of paper. Im torn actually.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: sue on August 22, 2016, 07:13:25 AM
Thanks for bumping this post- probably 500 to 600 hundred units have sold. If I did not respond to your text message or email then I did not get the order ( phone broke around Aug 1).

  Rob Sneed's herd for myself and others that have visited is/was the most uniform cow base of any color I have ever walked through. Only in photos of magazines of old Dover ranch scences have I viewed similarities to true uniformity. 

Personally I would never drop the % of shorthorn out of my own cow base - but the demand for a Red angus % far out ways purebred shorthorns.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: mark tenenbaum on August 22, 2016, 08:45:29 AM
And you worked and promoted the purebreds as hard as anyone.There are a lot of others in Texas, Minnesota,Cornell in Indiana,Brock, here and there that have started doing the same thing.I just can't remember everyone. O0
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: JTM on August 22, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
I just weaned 15 purebred and shorthorn plus Bulls and 5 of them got excluded from the contemporary group and did not receive adjusted weaning weights because they fell just shy of 160 days old at weaning... That now excludes them from yearling and carcass contemporary groups I believe. I'm trying to figure out the value I'm receiving.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: -XBAR- on August 22, 2016, 05:40:02 PM

Rob Sneed's herd for myself and others that have visited is/was the most uniform cow base of any color I have ever walked through. Only in photos of magazines of old Dover ranch scences have I viewed similarities to true uniformity. 


The formula RS and Dover used is no secret.  Minimize the variation in the genotype===> minimize the variation in the phenotype. 


I just weaned 15 purebred and shorthorn plus Bulls and 5 of them got excluded from the contemporary group and did not receive adjusted weaning weights because they fell just shy of 160 days old at weaning... That now excludes them from yearling and carcass contemporary groups I believe. I'm trying to figure out the value I'm receiving.

You wouldn't have wanted to rely on a two month adjustment anyways--- that is, if accuracy is your goal. 
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: JTM on August 22, 2016, 05:57:01 PM

Rob Sneed's herd for myself and others that have visited is/was the most uniform cow base of any color I have ever walked through. Only in photos of magazines of old Dover ranch scences have I viewed similarities to true uniformity. 


The formula RS and Dover used is no secret.  Minimize the variation in the genotype===> minimize the variation in the phenotype. 


I just weaned 15 purebred and shorthorn plus Bulls and 5 of them got excluded from the contemporary group and did not receive adjusted weaning weights because they fell just shy of 160 days old at weaning... That now excludes them from yearling and carcass contemporary groups I believe. I'm trying to figure out the value I'm receiving.

You wouldn't have wanted to rely on a two month adjustment anyways--- that is, if accuracy is your goal.
They were all the same ages only some fell a few days below the 160 day mark. It's unfortunate but it happens.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: mark tenenbaum on August 22, 2016, 07:01:31 PM
I think that's a pretty petty play on thier part JTM-especially since you are part of a core group who have made a concerted effort to document your cattle with reality not fiction. It almost seems that they WANT to bury the breed and or those people who are proving on thier own that these cattle work when crossed.-And so far,they have done a bang up job of it-The pompous so-called exclusivity of  the fictionalized purebred cattle that make up the majority of the breed-(With NO IMMEDIATE LAURELS TO REST ON OTHER THAN THE COW KILLERS REPUTATION) is a sure way to close the door on 90% of the people who would consider a Shorthorn,and also to those breeders who would  continue on with things when all they have to do is cross breed some and everybody will accept the cattle..First thing you had better be as an association is be neighborly to insiders and outsiders alike or FORGET ABOUT IT O0
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: beebe on August 22, 2016, 10:28:25 PM
I just weaned 15 purebred and shorthorn plus Bulls and 5 of them got excluded from the contemporary group and did not receive adjusted weaning weights because they fell just shy of 160 days old at weaning... That now excludes them from yearling and carcass contemporary groups I believe. I'm trying to figure out the value I'm receiving.
Just curious, why are you weaning cattle at less than 160 days?  That seems pretty young.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: JTM on August 23, 2016, 12:08:12 AM
I just weaned 15 purebred and shorthorn plus Bulls and 5 of them got excluded from the contemporary group and did not receive adjusted weaning weights because they fell just shy of 160 days old at weaning... That now excludes them from yearling and carcass contemporary groups I believe. I'm trying to figure out the value I'm receiving.
Just curious, why are you weaning cattle at less than 160 days?  That seems pretty young.
You are correct we wouldn't normally but we need to get them prepared for feed trial and shipment.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: sue on August 23, 2016, 06:44:38 AM
You guys kinda hacked this post, same old problems with association - just move on to another breed and leave Rob Sneed out of it.  Thank you -
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: E6 Durhams on August 23, 2016, 07:58:05 AM
Nobody said anything but good about RS. It's too bad he got sick. But you won't make any money off of that discussion and its your thread so you win.
Title: Re: Rob Sneed Purebred Shorthorn semen Dispersal has posted!
Post by: mbigelow on August 23, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Sue, do you think the 034 bull would cross well with either  JPJ  or Bonanza bred females?  Besides convince traits what does he add to his progeny?