kfacres
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Who puts lots on bone under one, and plenty of body in a calf? Don't care about dirty, color, or calving ease.
Stout Shorthorn bull
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shortyjock89
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RB Eagle 148 and his sons sure did it for us at the beginning of this decade. Double Vision has been doin it for us pretty well too.
TMJ Show Cattle
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Double Vision, Warhorse, Wooly Bully, LA Contagious,Eskimo Joe and on and on. With few exceptions they all need bred to some big ribbed cows. [volume] Major Impact,Petro 2,Leggs,Boxcar Willy sons.LA Contagious is a grandson of Boxcar himself, a son of Robinson Boxcar 602.
mark tenenbaum
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Have you had any Contagious calves? O0TMJ Show Cattle said:
dhs
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I would go with Phildon Absolutely, I would say Fringe, but there aren't any calves on the ground yet. The calves I have seen out of this bull have really impressed me and He is massive in terms of bone and that cow family this bull comes from are known for being big body cattle. I wish I would have used him this year, but I used his full brother Get Serious instead. Just my thoughts. Thanks, dhs
justintime
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Saskvalley Pioneer 126P and Wolf Willow Major Leroy 1M , are two sires we are using and both add bone, volume and thickness to their calves. Dr Bert Moore told me last week that the second crop of Pioneer calves at NDSU are just like the first crop, in that every calf is thicker and deeper than it's mother. Both these bulls are structurally sound, easy fleshing and clean.I have semen from both at Hawkeye Breeders, Adel, IA and Leroy is available from Semex and several other distributors. Here are pics of Pioneer, Leroy and Off Road, who is the first Leroy bull calf born in the US and he was Champion and top selling bull at $8000 at the Ohio Beef Expo.
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kfacres
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jit.. what are the frame scores on those two bulls? I have liked the Leroy bull, and the pioneer is one big dude...
justintime
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Both Pioneer and Leroy are very moderate framed. Of course Pioneer died at 2.5 years of age, so I do not know how big he would have been at maturity. He was a tank of a bull. Both Pioneer and Leroy were 5.5 - 6 frame bulls, but with their massive capacity and volume, they still weighed a bunch. Leroy is almost 8 years old and still looks like a 3 year old. He moved like a cat and stayed in great shape despite breeding a pile of cows this summer. He is a tremendous semen producer, and they bottled 1024 straws of high quality semen on his first collection when Semex purchased the world semen rights in him. Leroy's mother is one of our best donors and she is an amazing female. I also own Pioneer's grandmother and at 13 years she is still a model cow.
BAILEYFARMS
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JPJ or Jazzman
ROMAX
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Does PIONEER have a full brother at all?justintime said:
justintime
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Saskvalley has a yearling full brother to Pioneer that they are keeping as a herd sire in their herd. I have not seen him, but heard he is pretty stout.
scotland
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Pioneer has a full brother sold in the Saskvalley sale to Turner Farms, commercial herd in Alberta.If i recall the bull he was a dark roan.
