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Stter Champions: North vs South
« on: March 22, 2012, 11:28:10 AM »
I just watched a video from the OYE (thanks Crystal) and just like every time I watch a steer drive from states North of Texas the Black steers rise to the top.  Down here, even with judges from Northern states, the Charolias influnce cattle rise to the top.

Any idea why this is happening?
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Re: Stter Champions: North vs South
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 11:30:49 AM »
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Re: Stter Champions: North vs South
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 12:01:02 PM »


 I have also notcied that also. Looks to like the char or yellow steers are more complete calf when they are slick sheared than the black calves. What sired the winners in oklahoma. Where is Morrows going to next

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Re: Stter Champions: North vs South
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 12:59:48 PM »
I'm guessing a lot of it is slick vs. haired, but that sure doesn't always hold true at FW, either. 

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Re: Stter Champions: North vs South
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 01:49:08 PM »
I think to a certain extent judges tailor their approach to their market - in this case the region where a particular show is.  Hoge kind of alluded to it in his remarks during the Charolais drive.  In Texas now, its fairly well known that we are really the epicenter for charolais cross cattle.  Almost everywhere else in the country, blacks dominate.  Charolais got their toe hold because of the perception of slick shear shows, but its "bigger" than that now as evidenced by Fort Worth the past two years and what out-of-state judges pick in our bigger prospect shows.  It'll be very interesting to see what happens in Fort Worth next year.

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2012, 11:30:23 PM »
I think a lot of that has to do with premium sale numbers, breed divisions, and how Texas majors take X number of steers from each class in the premium sales. It encourages a diversity of breeds (at those shows that split breeds) - I know sheer numbers are much greater in Texas, but if you compared percentages, I think you'd find that Texas will have a higher percentage of Charolais, all the British breeds, and American breeds than pretty much anyplace else.

At OYE this year, only 3 steers from the Charolais division were eligible for the premium sale. A few Charolais steers show in the crossbred division, an occasional one or two in the Chi's, but that's not a lot of encouragement for most folks to want to feed one.  It's all on percentages (if 5% of the steers in the show are Charolais, then 5% of the steers in the sale are Charolais - if 30% of the steers in the show are crossbreds, then 30% of the steers in the sale will be crosses) but most people prefer the chance of getting in as 1 of 18 crosses or 1 of 8 Chi's to the shot of being 1 of 3 Charolais chosen...

And here in Oklahoma, there's still the perception that it takes a black one to win - usually that holds true. Not many folks here are willing to spend what it usually takes to buy a Charolais cross prospect that looks like he might be capable of winning it all one day - if they're going to spend big money on one for OYE or Tulsa, it's most likely gonna be a black one.
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Re: Stter Champions: North vs South
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 03:37:48 AM »
I think a lot of that has to do with premium sale numbers, breed divisions, and how Texas majors take X number of steers from each class in the premium sales. It encourages a diversity of breeds (at those shows that split breeds) - I know sheer numbers are much greater in Texas, but if you compared percentages, I think you'd find that Texas will have a higher percentage of Charolais, all the British breeds, and American breeds than pretty much anyplace else.

At OYE this year, only 3 steers from the Charolais division were eligible for the premium sale. A few Charolais steers show in the crossbred division, an occasional one or two in the Chi's, but that's not a lot of encouragement for most folks to want to feed one.  It's all on percentages (if 5% of the steers in the show are Charolais, then 5% of the steers in the sale are Charolais - if 30% of the steers in the show are crossbreds, then 30% of the steers in the sale) but most people prefer the chance of getting in as 1 of 18 crosses or 1 of 8 Chi's to the shot of being 1 of 3 Charolais chosen...

And here in Oklahoma, there's still the perception that it takes a black one to win - usually that holds true. Not many folks here are willing to spend what it usually takes to buy a Charolais cross prospect that looks like he might be capable of winning it all one day - if they're going to spend big money on one for OYE or Tulsa, it's most likely gonna be a black one.
I agree totally with your post. I would add why would you feed a good Char in Ok when you can send him to Texas and sell him for good money?

 

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