The loss of the curve bending clubby bull

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cowman

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I went back and looked at the bull contest on here, and some of the older bulls considered "great" and "breed changers". I've seen some of those bulls over the years on the hoof. Some of them had some problems, but most hadn't seen them in person or on the internet so they used them anyway.  

I know newer bulls get crucified for many of the same problems some older bulls have and yet the older bulls get a pass. Some of those older bulls would not have stood up to the scrutiny of Display Row 2011, but they WORKED.

Are we gravitating to the center? Seems to be an abundance of good bulls. Better than average in most areas, but not exceptional anywhere.

I like "complete" bulls, they're fun to look at, but even a perfect bull is going to disappoint you every time unless you have a perfect cow(and even then). To a degree you've got no where to go but backwards. These bulls are useful don't get me wrong, but what about that bottom third of the herd you're trying change?

Does the increased scrutiny (pictures, cell phone pictures, video, etc) keep the "freaks" off of display row?

I don't care if they're perfect, if they are changers, I'll find a way to use them. But please, give me some freaks to look at too.  
 

MCC

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I agree with cowman. Years ago when we didn't have the internet, camera phones, and small camcorders like we do today. We had to rely on pictures and word of mouth. Now, within seconds people around the world can view things that are happening now. Years ago when I was raising Limousin cattle I saw a picture of a bull called Fanfaron. He really looked impressive to me and I really wanted to breed to him but for some reason I never bought semen on him. Years later he was on display in Denver and was for sale. Boy was I disappointed, he stood about as tall as my waist. I'm sure some bulls I've used over the years I wouldn't have if I would have seen them in person. Kind of makes me wonder if to much information is harmful to my wealth (lol).
 

knabe

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bulls are to be sampled.

people still think ildeno sire huge calves which he did, but also sired moderate ones that could be appropriate sized today.  for whatever reason, chi's especially from ildeno, could be straighter made without being crippled in my opinion which that's all it is.  would they have enough overpower to compete today?  probably not.
 
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