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cyclone38

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Just wanted to get some thoughts on this steer I'm helping my friends raise for their daughter on my farm since they live in town. First year doing it so we didn't get too fancy. I like how big footed and boned he is however I think he could deepen him in his flank a bit and need some suggestions on trying to do that. Do any of you think he could be competitive in a county fair (as in not get last so the kids feel good about what they are doing). Thanks in advance.
 

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Gargan

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nowhere near a last place steer. Hes not bad at all for a county level steer. are u feeding him any cotton seed hulls or beet pulp in his feed mix?
 

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Cooked feed will do wonders. Take a 4 quart crockpot, fill half way with barley, then fill the rest with water. feed each calf half a crockpot at each feeding. 30-60 days of this, you will see a huge difference. Barley will give a plump soft look and add a little depth. If you just want to add depth, use shell corn. Fill the crockpot about 2 inches from top and then fill the rest with water. Feed the same as you would barley.
 

cyclone38

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Gargan said:
nowhere near a last place steer. Hes not bad at all for a county level steer. are u feeding him any cotton seed hulls or beet pulp in his feed mix?

I have not been adding any of this in his feed yet. Not sure we have cotton seed hulls here but can get beet pulp. How much do you recommend adding??
 

cyclone38

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mainegirl said:
Cooked feed will do wonders. Take a 4 quart crockpot, fill half way with barley, then fill the rest with water. feed each calf half a crockpot at each feeding. 30-60 days of this, you will see a huge difference. Barley will give a plump soft look and add a little depth. If you just want to add depth, use shell corn. Fill the crockpot about 2 inches from top and then fill the rest with water. Feed the same as you would barley.

How long do you cook it for?? Not sure if I have the time to do that if it takes too long. Thanks for suggestion!
 

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What does he weigh and when is his final show?
I really do not worry to much about filling his gut up as much when their young, I am more concerned with getting them getting headed in the right direction. Many of the calves I have seen that are similar to the calf you have pictured tend to drop their flank as they mature. Once they stop growing and start bulking up the flank seems to drop. I also like to feed a good grain hay it seems to help fill them up naturally and still adds to weight gain.
The calf looks like he should be an easy feeder and by the end should do just fine.
 

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The comments are all very good.  Do you have access to Purina products?  We feed a product called Depth Charge and it is not terribly expensive and we feel it is worth its weight in gold.  It will make them look fuller and will drop the gut a bit.  If you look on Purinas website I believe they may have a demonstration on what this product does but if you put a small amount of the product in a glass it will expand greatly in a quick period of time.  We only feed about 1 1/2 to 2 lb per day when we get close to show season about the last 2 to 3 months.  I think it is wonderful what you are doing allowing a city kid to learn about agriculture and what the farm goes through everyday! 
 

cyclone38

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vc said:
What does he weigh and when is his final show?
I really do not worry to much about filling his gut up as much when their young, I am more concerned with getting them getting headed in the right direction. Many of the calves I have seen that are similar to the calf you have pictured tend to drop their flank as they mature. Once they stop growing and start bulking up the flank seems to drop. I also like to feed a good grain hay it seems to help fill them up naturally and still adds to weight gain.
The calf looks like he should be an easy feeder and by the end should do just fine.

He weighs about 775. Our weigh in date for the fair is July 18.

Mainecattlemother - The local mill I get the feed at is a purina dealer, so that should not be a problem.
 

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I would just push the feed to him and see how he grows in the next 2 to 3  months and see if the flank does not start to drop. At 775 he probably just hit his growth spurt and will change as he starts packing on the weight. My concern with some of the fillers is keeping them gaining , he needs to gain 3 pounds a day over the next 163 days to hit the competitive range. He needs to consume calories and convert them right now.
How much feed is he eating per day? it should be around 21 to 23 pounds a day.
 

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cyclone38 said:
mainegirl said:
Cooked feed will do wonders. Take a 4 quart crockpot, fill half way with barley, then fill the rest with water. feed each calf half a crockpot at each feeding. 30-60 days of this, you will see a huge difference. Barley will give a plump soft look and add a little depth. If you just want to add depth, use shell corn. Fill the crockpot about 2 inches from top and then fill the rest with water. Feed the same as you would barley.

How long do you cook it for?? Not sure if I have the time to do that if it takes too long. Thanks for suggestion!

I let it cook between feedings. Say I had 2 calves so I'd feed 1 whole crockpot every morning and evening. I would start the crockpot every time I feed-6am and 6pm and let it cook all day. I have a croclpot with a timer on it. I set on 8 hours and then it switches to "warm" until I'm ready to feed it.
 

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