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Which bull to use?
« on: July 11, 2013, 10:54:33 PM »
Looking to breed a Meyer influenced cow to either the situation, chopping wood, or buckwheat. I have some time but can't decide. Looking to get a good slick shear calf for Houston or SA. Any opinions would greatly be appreciated. I think the bull needs to be powerful.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2013, 08:40:34 AM »
Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2013, 10:09:02 AM »
How come Kevin? What are your thoughts on breeding YJ cows?

Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.
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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2013, 11:09:32 AM »
Hes shooting for steers. On the right cow they will work however those YJ females are way better than the steers. Also being out of a meyer daughter the YJ could get fairly large and take quite a bit to keep them full enough. If she is a for sure ground sow (1200#) small framed type cow it would be worth a try that lifeline comes out strong and those cattle are thick, thick but don't have that juicy middle that it takes to make a great one for todays rings. Of course there will always be exceptions but on the grand scheme of things I would stick with some consistency instead of swinging for the fences only breeding one cow at a time.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2013, 12:15:19 PM »
Thanks, how do you think Texas Twister would work on his Myer?
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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2013, 12:46:02 PM »
Chambero would be the one to ask on any of bill elliots bulls. If i remember right texas twister should power one up and downsize with some structural improvement where smoke a little smoke the solid gold son has been following the cow a little closer in terms of breeding but will soften one up through the hock which could sure be something to look at on a lot of these older maines (godfather, friction, who made who) type cattle.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2013, 07:43:54 PM »
The Smoke a Little Smokes should work well for the slick shows. His calves have a nice shape and are really thick ended. The hair quality is good, and they are a little neater fronted than some of the Twisters we've had. On color he'll probably sire more solid patterns as Twister tends to add more chrome. Calves out of both bulls seem to grow well with above average feed efficiency.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2013, 11:49:40 PM »
I thanks for the thoughts. I have also been thinking of George, hoo made hoo, troubadour. Any thoughts on those?  Do y'all think that alias is better than those for a Meyer cow?

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2013, 09:38:08 AM »
Well without seeing the cow it is hard for us to appropriately recommend a bull.
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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2013, 09:48:08 AM »
Milkman. Yes stay away from eye candy.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2013, 09:24:26 AM »
Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.
Hey DCC, can you answer some questions on those crowd favorites. I was thinking about breeding a lot to him next year. Does his calves have any size? whats he working on and do you have any pics of those calves? Thank You!---- for the post, I have a smokin good Alias x Simmy (direct hit x meyer) that I sold for a pretty good price the other day. What I can tell you from using Alias, make sure the cow is deep and extra sound. I would suggest alias, solid gold, milkman, or TT. Check out Diamond M cattle in Alabama, they had some really good TT and solid gold calves. As far as TT goes, I bought an ALI herd bull from Bill Elliott 2 years ago and he has thrown me better calves than some of my Bodacious and Monopoly calves and I paid $1500 for him. So you can only Imagine the quality of Smoke a lil Smoke or Texas Twister. Also from a mature standpoint, Texas Twister had one of the most impressive mature pics I have seen. Choppin Wood could throw you a pudd in a hurry. JMO
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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 09:32:32 AM »
With the front end on TT I am surprised people use him. I bet he could power one up though.

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2013, 10:15:14 AM »
here is the Link to Diamond M sale:
http://showcalves.com/calfpics3.html

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2013, 01:10:11 PM »
We should have our first crowd favorites this fall not real sure on the size but when i talked to wade he said he believed he was breeding a lot like a sounder alias if I remember correctly and what he meant by that is he would keep a little softer hock and power one up. I dont have any pictures and most were around 40 days old when I saw them but they were real complete good doing type calves. Im excited to use him this year as well as TT

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Re: Which bull to use?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2013, 02:03:15 PM »
Not trying to steal post but have this calf born in June ,that wondered if he was the type for slick shear ....Voice your opinion ,won't hurt mine ...

 

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