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texas111

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Looking to breed a Meyer influenced cow to either the situation, chopping wood, or buckwheat. I have some time but can't decide. Looking to get a good slick shear calf for Houston or SA. Any opinions would greatly be appreciated. I think the bull needs to be powerful.
 

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Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.
 

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How come Kevin? What are your thoughts on breeding YJ cows?

DCC show cattle said:
Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.
 

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Hes shooting for steers. On the right cow they will work however those YJ females are way better than the steers. Also being out of a meyer daughter the YJ could get fairly large and take quite a bit to keep them full enough. If she is a for sure ground sow (1200#) small framed type cow it would be worth a try that lifeline comes out strong and those cattle are thick, thick but don't have that juicy middle that it takes to make a great one for todays rings. Of course there will always be exceptions but on the grand scheme of things I would stick with some consistency instead of swinging for the fences only breeding one cow at a time.
 

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Chambero would be the one to ask on any of bill elliots bulls. If i remember right texas twister should power one up and downsize with some structural improvement where smoke a little smoke the solid gold son has been following the cow a little closer in terms of breeding but will soften one up through the hock which could sure be something to look at on a lot of these older maines (godfather, friction, who made who) type cattle.
 

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The Smoke a Little Smokes should work well for the slick shows. His calves have a nice shape and are really thick ended. The hair quality is good, and they are a little neater fronted than some of the Twisters we've had. On color he'll probably sire more solid patterns as Twister tends to add more chrome. Calves out of both bulls seem to grow well with above average feed efficiency.
 

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I thanks for the thoughts. I have also been thinking of George, hoo made hoo, troubadour. Any thoughts on those?  Do y'all think that alias is better than those for a Meyer cow?
 

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DCC show cattle said:
Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.
Hey DCC, can you answer some questions on those crowd favorites. I was thinking about breeding a lot to him next year. Does his calves have any size? whats he working on and do you have any pics of those calves? Thank You!---- for the post, I have a smokin good Alias x Simmy (direct hit x meyer) that I sold for a pretty good price the other day. What I can tell you from using Alias, make sure the cow is deep and extra sound. I would suggest alias, solid gold, milkman, or TT. Check out Diamond M cattle in Alabama, they had some really good TT and solid gold calves. As far as TT goes, I bought an ALI herd bull from Bill Elliott 2 years ago and he has thrown me better calves than some of my Bodacious and Monopoly calves and I paid $1500 for him. So you can only Imagine the quality of Smoke a lil Smoke or Texas Twister. Also from a mature standpoint, Texas Twister had one of the most impressive mature pics I have seen. Choppin Wood could throw you a pudd in a hurry. JMO
 

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We should have our first crowd favorites this fall not real sure on the size but when i talked to wade he said he believed he was breeding a lot like a sounder alias if I remember correctly and what he meant by that is he would keep a little softer hock and power one up. I dont have any pictures and most were around 40 days old when I saw them but they were real complete good doing type calves. Im excited to use him this year as well as TT
 

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Sizzler14 said:
DCC show cattle said:
Of the ones you listed i would have to say Choppin Wood but I believe there are many way and I mean way better choices for slick shearing ones in texas. If she has enough forerib milkman, if she is just an overall good one and needs power alias is hard to beat, I have seen some pretty good crowd favorites popping up and then you cannot ignore solid golds track record just make sure she has plenty of belly for solid gold. Thats just some colored bulls there are literally dozens of bulls you could go with but anything eye candy or yellowjacket bred i would stay away from for steers.
Hey DCC, can you answer some questions on those crowd favorites. I was thinking about breeding a lot to him next year. Does his calves have any size? whats he working on and do you have any pics of those calves? Thank You!---- for the post, I have a smokin good Alias x Simmy (direct hit x meyer) that I sold for a pretty good price the other day. What I can tell you from using Alias, make sure the cow is deep and extra sound. I would suggest alias, solid gold, milkman, or TT. Check out Diamond M cattle in Alabama, they had some really good TT and solid gold calves. As far as TT goes, I bought an ALI herd bull from Bill Elliott 2 years ago and he has thrown me better calves than some of my Bodacious and Monopoly calves and I paid $1500 for him. So you can only Imagine the quality of Smoke a lil Smoke or Texas Twister. Also from a mature standpoint, Texas Twister had one of the most impressive mature pics I have seen. Choppin Wood could throw you a pudd in a hurry. JMO

Do you have a link to the Texas Twister picture?
 

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Pic 1 Texas Twister
Pic 2 Choppin Wood
I believe Texas Twister is a year or 2 older in the pic than choppin wood but Dont quote me on that
 

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For a Meyer cow, i'd use a halfblood Char bull.  Purebreds will be too big and too hard made to work for a slick steer.  Mr. Elliot's bulls are real good.

Milkman and YJ calves can be great, but both have a tendency to be too big.
 
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