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Online knabe

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PPS:  Some of these cows (mutts) are actually pretty good females.  Just are not producing the type of "clubby calf" desired due to structure issues when bred back to a terminal club calf bull.




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The following bulls are $ 20-35  on SEK and Cattle Visions  almost everything clean is $30 anymore unless you buy closeout cow killer semen -FSF King of Men, FSF Near Perfect,CLB Notorious,Free For All.Free Bird,Ghost Rider, Man on a Mission, Lanes Mr Colt,Red White And Roan, Oakview Trump card ,Steer Maker - The Jazz based ones will work fine on larger framed cows-and have been selling and winning, the other bulls have all been proven crossbreeding and are  big enough all are TH PHA clean.- Cattle Visions same deal price wise -clean wise- Turner Deception-a major show winner Red Reward proven in the pasture , Cannandale Scotch,After Hours, O0

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Can't believe no one has reccomended Comfort Zone or Benz. Maternal Made makes them freaky fronted if you want to spend the extra money. Primo and Style have that show ring look if your cows are high enough % breed to throw a registered calf out of a PB Angus bull.
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Sheep - how are the rib depth and shape on the Maternal Made calves?
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Sheep - how are the rib depth and shape on the Maternal Made calves?/// Id say from the pictures at least hes the stoutest of the the 3-and as far as black ones go-the Maines get it done JMO O0

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I Believe would be my first choice but is a carrier. Middle man is a really good bull that I saw this spring. Broker works well also to produce some top females. Also some other good bulls already mentioned. Good luck 👍🏻

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Thanks Mark!

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How about "Rumor Mill"?  What is his frame size and growth?

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I'm using some maternal made this year. He is a bit expensive but looks to be pretty consistent.  I'm hoping for some replacement heifers.
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I have two Maternal Made calves this year. 

A steer calf that is dirty fronted (and his dam is pretty good fronted) and not put together well.  However, he is thick topped, thick quartered and deep, and big boned. 

The heifer is very good everywhere!  Out of a very good young, 3C Macho x Angus cow.  Top heifer calf this year by quite a bit! She is a standout!

Using more Maternal Made semen this year.

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Thanks for all the input on my post!  It is very appreciated and has been most interesting.

The reason for my post was just not for myself, but for others as well.  I have visited with other cattlemen that have some of these "Clubby/More Terminal Type Cows".  While I totally understand the reason(s) for raising and owning a herd of "Maternal Bred Cows", the fact remains that this other type of cows exists and probably not soon to go away. 

I believe more people now understand the breeding of these Terminal Type cows and the ensuing issues and problems with them.  Many breeders have now gotten "away from" breeding these types of individuals.  From the observations and discussions I have had with other breeders, the number of cattlemen raising "Club Calves", has greatly reduced.  But, I digress and that would be a topic for another post.

In conclusion, let me say that IMHO...as long as we as breeders are raising "Show/Market Heifers", for high dollars, and are the "Terminal Type" and continue to win shows.  These same "projects" and "Terminal/Market Heifers" will continue to end up coming home to someones cow herd to make Momma Cows.  These same cows need a specific type of bull to be bred to that, as of yet (to my knowledge), while may be available, has not been "promoted" for such matings. Thanks!

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