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This is the most annoying thing I have read next to the angus association putting out propaganda about straight breeding commercial cattle. The reason you don't hear about charolais steak houses is because they are too busy filling CAB!!!! The stupidity and arrogance is more than I can take.

Btw love the cow, maybe should just go red angus!

His reg number is 1679426. He is a -2 ce 1.4 bw I can't remember ww right now but yw was 97 and right now it looks like he will ratio very high for yw and was 105 for ww. His side is 50k and we own him. I haven't done it for this bull yet but had planned on it. Thank you very much for the...

I fiddled around and roughed out one of our bull calves yesterday. He is a dinero Z012 x SLGN Uniquely Made 895U. Let me know what you think.

They look very rugged stout and sound. Not sure which one I would take, it's very hard to judge the true animal off of pictures. What are they?

Land prices will be extremely cheap compared to what you are used to. Wonderful people up there, the cattle are typically but not always a little bigger due to the weather. Caution: it is extremely cold up there. Cattle need to be in good shape going into winter and winter lasts for a long time...

Cowboy, I respect that conclusion from the pictures, the progeny and the bull in person wouldn't get the that critique but from the pictures alone he does. I will try and dig up some more pics when possible. Nice cow.

I would strongly recommend Pyro. I have attached a flyer on him. Full disclosure-he is owned by a friend of mine but I don't own a part of him. Absolutely crazy good fronted, super neat profile with a ton of upper rib shape and muscle dimension for a pb angus bull. He isn't going to be turn key...

This is a very nice heifer. Really love how she came together, and love what looks to be early signs of a beautiful udder and looks like shes good footed.

Because at the end of the day most breeders are not competent at A.I. and need someone to do it for them. She just doesn't know or want to spend a lot of time "selling" this actual bull. She just wants something to go to these breeders with.

Hello, I have a friend that works for a major semen company and they do not have a shorthorn bull and sounds like they will not in the near future. In order to service many pb clientele of smaller herds that are asking for an answer she needs to acquire an arrangement directly with a breeder...

http://www.cattlevisions.com/bull_detail.php?BullId=3766 Heres a link

Does anybody have any information on this bull, have seen him or his progeny in person?

Thanks for the replies, we raise some pb red angus and through a personal connection the commercially driven maine anjou have piqued my interest. As of the moment, unless somebody talks me out of it, I think I will be adding maines to my red angus. Who are the good breeders in CA?

where are you located and what are you trying to accomplish?

Besides GVC and Nagel are there any other commercially focused maine breeders out there?

Right now with Genomics that bull could have no progeny. To me I don't always trust the people putting in the data and I also recognize that genetics is only about half of expression and the other half is environment/management. I'm not sure where you are going with this but you will have more...

I appreciate that Ryan, Dinero works very well and he is shaped right but unfortunately with his bw I wouldn't recommend him on charolais heifers. We have had good success with Moto Moto and a Northern Improvement son called New and Improved. I do think that you are better off going red, its...

haha good point, well I'm not saying it wouldn't be interesting, I am saying there isn't enough  genetic diversity in that breed to get it done on a true two way but would probably work on a 3 way cross

Those are really nice replacements! Love that long bodied heifer centered in the top picture, she's not fancy but I bet she'll be a producer! Just imagine what the calves would look like with a red angus sire....