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They both have a lot of dewlap but the actual part of their chest comes down to about their knee, which is about where ext is, difference is ext has forerib to go with it.

I know you could just list a couple of exotic cattle breed websites and show countless photos of wide chested cattle that are poor forage converters, I agree 100%. That is why I quantified my statement with the hound gutted part. A lot of this goes back to production as well, they do not have to...

I don't mean to pick on herefords but here are two that are "deep chested" and really tight in their heart girth.

I guess I couldn't disagree more with being deep chested on the side relating to foraging ability, overall capacity is what you are after and last time I checked that was L X W X H. Wide chested cattle (not because the are open topped and blown out in the shoulder) but truly wide chested cattle...

The second one down would be interesting to see from another angle, good sheath angle, well balanced. From these pictures though third one down is an easy winner, balanced, deep quartered, big ribbed, but more importantly in this group his head is attached higher into his shoulder which directly...

I think what Judge is trying to say is because Angus have the most numbers and other breeds are incorporating them that that is proof that Angus is superior.  I see what he is saying because what is right is always popular and it's best not to think for yourself. Good advice Judge.

I'm not here to back shortys but Judge you are a little out of hand, angus did crossbreed to make themselves better, btw, angus can not take credit for everything, the only corner they had on the market was marketing and now thats going away

Really like all of the cows posted, XBAR it says durham red so obviously she is red angus shorthorn cross? The cow I will try to post is one that is best appreciated in person. She is very sound, good footed, and massive. She is only about a 5 frame cow but is made very well. There is always...

Try OCC Unmistakable in Genex line up

Look up Jesse Warntjes, he is the Showrite rep and the sheep are in southern Oregon. I'm sure they have a website.

Looks good, a little round out their dock but they look like they are doing well. Hard to tell too much more without the wool coming off. Good luck!

The one thing I see constantly being left out of this discussion is how people are running their cows. I love the idea of small cows, I want small cows and I have bought small cows, and I have lost lots of money with small cows. We are may/june calvers in Northeast Wyoming. We range out ALL YEAR...

Hoodoo 100%, we have a pile of hoodoo cows and they are bigger ribbed easier fleshing, thicker, and more moderate than our red angus. I have a friend who has a predominantly hoodoo pb herd and his cows are 5 frame and 1200 lbs. Highly recomend going charolais, btw, I have seen so many that do...

Here is the link to the catalog and videos:http://www.cattleinmotion.com/issuu/tjs-red-angus-6th-annual-red-truck-bull-sale Our lots are 89-91 Let me know what you think!

(clapping) Very Nice!

This guy is a hoss, you will def have to post some progeny pics

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This is a great story, thank you so much for sharing!

He scanned a positive rea ratio, besides no progeny proof so I wouldn't rely on that

Moderate, maybe a 5 ish frame, big ribbed, sound, had a beautiful set of females there, reminds me of a nebula or conquest type of bull