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I disagree on no commercial type cattle except for A@T. Saskvalley, Kaper, Waukaru, JSF, Lovings, Studer, XBAR, Cody Nelson, bigelow in Cali, muridale, Paint Valley on and on. These folks have made good strides to me. Unless you've sampled these places thoroughly I don't think you can say nobody...

Interesting at the end there he said if he gets a good bull out of those flushes he will make it available to anyone who wants to use him. I hope that includes reasonably priced semen.

80C would seem to be too big in my mind for a grass fed operation. I don't doubt he worked for you, just find it interesting. You should post some pictures of your cattle amigo.

I've seen a bunch of cattle in South America that could work but you can't get those genetics up here. At least last time I looked into it. I'd love to use some shorthorn from down there. My last animal I butchered was a 14 month old pure shorthorn bull. Lacked in marbling but the customers are...

I think grass fed genetics don't really exist yet. Or haven't been identified enough. I think you'll have to breed for it before you can say for sure. I think you have to take genetics from the lower input operations and combine them. There is no 100% grass based shorthorn ranch that I know of...

Nobody is to say what you should be breeding. What we are saying is stabilize the pre potency of the cattle you're breeding. Different strains that do different things within the breed. Larry Leonhardt had several stabilized types in his own herd that were bred to excel at different things...

I think that's incredibly short sighted. And Pharo is not a top breeder. No way no how. He's a salesman. You're smarter than this. I will never understand how one can argue something that's already been proven.

You ever notice has the majority of breeders in any breed are followers? I walked the Ohio beef expo and noticed over 75% of the angus were sired by a Conneally bull. Majority of shorthorns are Sull sired or influenced some way. Anybody who brings anything home raised usually takes a beating. I...

i kept my best calf to use as a bull this year. Kaper sired. I'm happy as a clam with him.

Some really good bulls selling on Tuesday. Top notch program in my opinion. I've seen these cattle in person a couple times this year. Really like the lot 2 bull. http://www.paintvalleyfarms.com/

Hot commodity

I know Olson personally and seen his work. I'd say you would be in good hands buying from him.

I bought some embryos from Jordan Acres last fall. I know they have some more for sake privately. Really good bang for your buck.

I agree! Plenty of black cows out there, potential buyers are the trick.

I'm very happy with my Red Commanders. They are very calm around me. They got out a month or so ago and they were trying to breed every cow. Made me laugh. They for sure have some libido! I wasn't aware of the carcass data yet. I'll keep one of these Bulls to breed on and if I don't sell the...

Thanks buddy. He's a Wolf Ridge Red Commander x FSF Proud Leader x RB Eagle 226 x RS 034's dam. I'd say that's a outcross heifer bull. His dam is a little cow. This was her first calf. She may weigh 1k pounds but weaned him off over 500 pounds.

Few shorthorn yearlings 

You can use my Netflix account. [email protected] is the username sav004 is the password Anybody else that doesn't have Netflix can use mine all they want. The best butcher I've ever used insisted on a 21 day hang time no matter what the type of beef being raised. The giant steers XBAR...

If you want to watch a very interesting movie about the top 10 places in the world to eat a steak. They travel the whole world. Visit herds. Amazing how many people at the top of the profession are breeders and butchers with their own butcher shop or restaurant. The top selling carcass of Kobe...

I sure appreciate what you're doing Ralph. You are taking the first steps needed. I tried to enter my data the other day. I'm not sure I did it right but we shall see. I do have a question on the 205 day status quo for attaining WW. There are folks out there who state leaving the calf on the cow...