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Just have the vet out early to palpate the cow. Then schedule a c section. Totally commercially viable.

I looked but couldn’t find the breed by breed results. Hopefully somebody can point that out for us.

Fair enough. Can you show me the most recent data ?

He looks like a giant Wagyu. He must have put the grow in them. With those legs I’d wager there was some Chi lurking in the woodpile.

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/animals/cattle/the-beef-shorthorn-a-breed-to-be-reckoned-with/ https://genetics.zoetis.com/canada/_locale-assets/documents/genestar_mvp_techsummary_na_nov2012.pdf

I get times change and trends come and go but holy moly that bull is horrible to me.

It was MARC data that I was talking about. The shear force test. I’ll see if I can find it this evening.

Thickness means more retail product. Majority of beef is sold as burger. We supply one restaurant with burger and they will use 75-125 pounds a week. Thickness doesn’t necessarily mean better cutability. Shorthorns are already the most tender breed. Outside of birthweight I see way too many...

I’d say he just walked himself thin. In my experience a cow coming in to heat likes to walk a lot. Make the bull follow. I’ve seen a vet on YouTube claim a cow can walk 10-15 miles just leading the bull around before she stands.

I’ve got two straws of that bull. An old timer gave it to me when I first bought shorthorns. Had to be 2002 or so.

I guess I should of specified earlier but purple banners are useless for this thread. I’m talking  red meat. More retail product. My guest isn’t to make a national champ.  My goal is to create a shorthorn that can be sold as premium beef. To promote the breed on its merits. Top one being the...

I certainly didn’t want this result. I’ve been busy plowing snow and preparing to move. I also raise hogs and I may not raise national champions. I do raise hogs that chefs buy. Hogs have paid for my cows. I made my own pig. Just as I intend to make my own cows. Cattle just take forever. I was...

Go home dude. You’re drunk. Funny I’ve never read once where you alone did anything. Seems to me you pay people to raise your cattle and clip your calves. Then you show up at the show like some kingpin. I tried to be nice earlier. I liked the Compton Fresh Air bull. Even sent his picture in a...

I’m not really interested in clubby type stuff but if one is found to be useful in real world conditions then by all means post away. I was hoping to identify bulls either forgotten, underused or used wrongly that were wider based and put some ass on them. I’m not posting to set somebody up. I...

Last time I checked I don’t have a circle. I have friends like you do. I also debate cattle all the time with those friends. We don’t always agree but we have the same goals in mind. I appreciate your input on that other thread. Sorry I didn’t acknowledge your efforts

What the hell man. I was just following that thread. I didn’t have anything to ad. I didn’t know those were the rules. I didn’t know if I didn’t respond immediately I was just screwing with people. How in the hell do you know what I would use and wouldn’t. ?  One person disagrees with you and...

I’m just reading and watching this unfold. I asked a question. I don’t have an opinion on my question. That’s why I asked the question lol. If you read the semen sales books on the angus, the new catch phrase seems to be “base width”. Seems to me these bulls are being promoted because angus...

Looking for opinions on the 5 thickest shorthorn bulls available to the open market. Bulls that consistently pass that thickness on to the calves. Birthweight doesn’t matter. I want to know the power bulls available. Base width and a big ass. Nice thick top line.

Who bought Lot 1? Really nice bull. Two really good buys on the full sib to Captain Obvious and the Profit Maker x Captain Rob heifer. They should make good cows. If I had the funds I’d have bid on both females.

Seems to me SP still gets plenty of traffic. Cattle Today appears to get the most interaction. But it’s not all civil there either. I don’t comment there. Just lurk mostly to get info on angus cattle. I come here for the shorthorn banter. It’s no secret shorthorns are the smallest in numbers of...